Re: Toronto aftermath : Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:32 pm  

I thought Burgess looked a lot more involved this week, yes he dropped that dolly of a kick but overall he looked a lot more eager and I thought he was matching Marshall for the hard graft clearing our line.
He may well of had another try in the first half except for that shocker of a pass from Farrell (same as last week).
Overall a big improvement from Burgess, maybe knowing Manfredi is almost ready is finally concentrating his mind.

Re: Toronto aftermath : Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:39 pm  

I expected the win if im honest, cant see anything but a long season for the Wolfpack and the relegation battle that surely awaits them.

so im not going to proclaim the new dawn is here but the team did a job, made hard going at times but once they wore them down only one winner.

Hastings caught my eye, always chatting and directing the team round, can only improve things as the season moves along.

Re: Toronto aftermath : Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:41 pm  

hengirl wrote:

so im not going to proclaim the new dawn is here but the team did a job, made hard going at times but once they wore them down only one winner.

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Same here, I don't get the ridiculous level of negativity in this thread. I wasn't happy at HT because it was obvious they were missing a few and I said we ought to put at least 30 on them, which we did in the end. The first half was very much about wearing the opposition down with very conservative rugby, we completed at 90% and didn't make any errors, and I think that was important after last week. As a paying spectator, I don't particularly enjoy watching it but I understand the tactic.

But when we turned it on, it was good to watch - Farrell's inside pass to French was almost impossible to defend. As well as Hastings and French having strong games in the backs, it was good to see Joe Bullock's contribution and I thought Smithies made good metres with ball in hand. On the negative side, a lot of ball watching within our 20m led to their tries and we couldn't stop their offloads. Not getting carried away, it's 3 games in with a lot of new combinations against weak opposition. Next Sunday will give us an idea of how we compete at the top end of the table.

A couple of people have mentioned the referee's performance. I don't understand how a bloke can ref one half in one way and come out with a completely different style of officiating after halftime. I don't know who the officials talk to at HT or whether they get reviewed by Ganson or the video ref, but the conspiracy theories being shouted out about Sky wanting to see an 'upset' seem as good an explanation as any. This sort of inconsistency within one game is very frustrating for the spectators and especially for the players. After Isa (legally) pasted their forward and Hastings blew up and got penalised, I thought the game might get away from us, but thankfully the team regained their composure.

Re: Toronto aftermath : Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:10 pm  

Anyway a bit of positivity, at the end of Round 3 we're either going to be joint top or just two points off the top.

[DaveO]

Re: Toronto aftermath : Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:12 pm  

phibes wrote:

After Isa (legally) pasted their forward and Hastings blew up and got penalised, I thought the game might get away from us, but thankfully the team regained their composure.

On that point I have been reminded that wasn't Isa himself clattered last season at Anfield, dropped the ball as a result and the very same ref gave the knock on?

Re: Toronto aftermath : Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:42 pm  

DaveO wrote:

On that point I have been reminded that wasn't Isa himself clattered last season at Anfield, dropped the ball as a result and the very same ref gave the knock on?

It was Tauati, and he never made an attempt to get up etc. So even less reason to give a knock on.

What was annoying yesterday was that Springer had got to his feet, played/dropped the ball facing the wrong way and it was 7 seconds after the hit he blew.
He blew AFTER Springer had already done all of that.

Now if were going down that path, expect to see players knocking on at the play the ball and then getting injured to negate the knock on.

It may be a bit harsh, but any knock on BEFORE the referee blows his whistle has to be a knock on (or a penalty for the tackle, which last night it wasnt).

[DaveO]

Re: Toronto aftermath : Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:59 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

It was Tauati, and he never made an attempt to get up etc. So even less reason to give a knock on.

What was annoying yesterday was that Springer had got to his feet, played/dropped the ball facing the wrong way and it was 7 seconds after the hit he blew.
He blew AFTER Springer had already done all of that.

Now if were going down that path, expect to see players knocking on at the play the ball and then getting injured to negate the knock on.

It may be a bit harsh, but any knock on BEFORE the referee blows his whistle has to be a knock on (or a penalty for the tackle, which last night it wasnt).

Yes very annoying, I thought I was right thinking he'd already knocked on before the ref blew.

Re: Toronto aftermath : Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:10 pm  

The penalty was given for decent by Hastings.
He was still fuming from the forward pass incident.

Re: Toronto aftermath : Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:27 pm  

newton warrior wrote:

The penalty was given for decent by Hastings.
He was still fuming from the forward pass incident.

The dissent was because hastings was arguing with the ref because hed allowed Springer to play the ball again and bot give a knock on

Re: Toronto aftermath : Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:57 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

The dissent was because hastings was arguing with the ref because hed allowed Springer to play the ball again and bot give a knock on

I actually think the ref got Hastings fired up and he controlled himself brilliantly and started to express himself more with his ability