Re: Matty Bowen : Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:46 pm  

jonh wrote:

Last year he took 1st, 2nd and 3rd man positions he can play any of those roles with ease.

He showed signs if it tonight as the season goes on he will fill all those positions.

last season he played best at 1st and 2nd receiver he barley ever took it at 3rd receiver. he is much better at creating space and stepping rather than chiming in the line.

Re: Matty Bowen : Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:47 pm  

dubairl wrote:

his isn't a 3rd pivot like Tomkins he is a playmaker and thats role he needs to play.

whats the difference?

Re: Matty Bowen : Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:51 pm  

the wrestler wrote:

whats the difference?

a 3rd pivot is a sam tomkins role
1st pivot is a matty smith role

he isn't the quickest anymore and some times it seems he is struggling to get round and pop up on the outside of the defender. He is much better at dragging defenders to him and creating space around him it just gives him more time on the ball.

Re: Matty Bowen : Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:02 pm  

dubairl wrote:

a 3rd pivot is a sam tomkins role
1st pivot is a matty smith role

he isn't the quickest anymore and some times it seems he is struggling to get round and pop up on the outside of the defender. He is much better at dragging defenders to him and creating space around him it just gives him more time on the ball.

He made Ade Gardner look like a donkey in the Derby tonight though.

Re: Matty Bowen : Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:04 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

He made Ade Gardner look like a donkey in the Derby tonight though.

he did

Re: Matty Bowen : Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:24 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

He made Ade Gardner look like a donkey in the Derby tonight though.

I actually felt sorry for Gardner. He is one of those players with too much heart.

Every time he took it up he got absolutely spannered but he kept going back for more.

As for Bowen's lack of pace, Burgess struggled to keep up with him until they both got in full flight. His acceleration is still very impressive.

[DaveO]

Re: Matty Bowen : Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:50 pm  

I enjoyed Bowen's try tonight and I thought he played quite well generally. Very safe fielding kicks but I still don't think he has sussed out his role.

Maybe Wane needs to take advantage of what Bowen can do rather than try and turn him into Sam T MkII

Re: Matty Bowen : Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:01 am  

DaveO wrote:

I enjoyed Bowen's try tonight and I thought he played quite well generally. Very safe fielding kicks but I still don't think he has sussed out his role.

Maybe Wane needs to take advantage of what Bowen can do rather than try and turn him into Sam T MkII

What can Bowen do that Sam could not or vise versa?

[DaveO]

Re: Matty Bowen : Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am  

jonh wrote:

What can Bowen do that Sam could not or vise versa?

I am not sure why vise versa is relevant as why do we care if Sam plays like Bowen? It's not really what either of them can do anyway but how they are told to play. To me Bowen looks rather regimented in his play as if he is under orders to join the line when expected and so in the meantime doesn't try any off the cuff stuff.

I am not suggesting it is as bad as it was when Noble virtually nullified Trent Barrett's creativity but I think Bowen would enjoy coming in from deeper rather than just being the extra man. Things like that.

Bowen has had a lot of slagging off which I think is unfair. I was not in favour of his signing given his age and knees but said often enough he had been a quality player and now he is here I'd love it if he turned out to be like Gene Miles.

Re: Matty Bowen : Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:41 am  

it would be nice if the half backs could run the length of the pitch but they can't, thats been left to Sam & Ben. Most defending teams line up the fullbacks but a fast half back would be a good foil. Bowen is a master at ghosting into 2nd receiver and throwing a money ball (due to Thurstons class and unpredictabilty, whereas we have Smith playing Wanes predictable set moves) Give it time & remember this fella is used to playing in Queensland where it is very hot. He has a lot to adjust to