: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:46 pm  

ian-m wrote:

Surely must have the money. Will he spend it though

Rumours of IL penny-pinching. It's none of my business, but you have to wonder if the recent financial downturn has affected IL in any way

: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:48 pm  

Tricky Dicky wrote:

Revolt?

Are we saying tommy is a bad influence.

maybe this has something to do with lenagan releasing tommy from quins?

Sorry, I think 'revolt' was the wrong word to use.

What I meant was he was apparently the person he spoke up the most within the camp after the Huddersfield game.

Whether that was in a positive or negative way is something I couldn't answer.

: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:50 pm  

If he's lost the dressing room then he has to go. Simple as that. On a seperate note - when people were mentioning the player revolt in the Dorahey era. Do you think the home defeat to Widnes that spelt the end for Raper was something similar? I know from a good source at the time that the players wanted him out. http://wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=640

If he's lost the dressing room then he has to go. Simple as that. On a seperate note - when people were mentioning the player revolt in the Dorahey era. Do you think the home defeat to Widnes that spelt the end for Raper was something similar? I know from a good source at the time that the players wanted him out. http://wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=640

: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:52 pm  

I think he took the line, it's the players who provided that cr@p it's up to the players to put it right.

I saw Fekas reaction (West is best eh Alex) and he certainly wasn't pleased, but to me that was a positive reaction in that he is getting to he fitness levels many on here have been asking for.

: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:53 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I think he took the line, it's the players who provided that cr@p it's up to the players to put it right.

I saw Fekas reaction (West is best eh Alex) and he certainly wasn't pleased, but to me that was a positive reaction in that he is getting to he fitness levels many on here have been asking for.

But thats no use if Nobles gonna bring him off.

: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:56 pm  

Mother Feka wrote:

But thats no use if Nobles gonna bring him off.

I agree it seemed a stupid time to make it and a waste of a substitution.

Did anyone notice Warrington did exactly the same thing last night?

: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:57 pm  

Conroy wrote: If he's lost the dressing room then he has to go. Simple as that. On a seperate note - when people were mentioning the player revolt in the Dorahey era. Do you think the home defeat to Widnes that spelt the end for Raper was something similar? I know from a good source at the time that the players wanted him out. http://wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=640 I think that was the same day that Whelan walked across the pitch as the players were warming up and started pointing the finger at the players basically telling them that they were playing for their future. I might be wrong, but I'm sure that Raper was due to leave the club at the end of that season anyway and the club and Raper ''mutually'' agreed for him to leave. I know he was fuming after the Whelan incedent and I was lead to believe that it was his decision more than anything.

Conroy wrote: If he's lost the dressing room then he has to go. Simple as that. On a seperate note - when people were mentioning the player revolt in the Dorahey era. Do you think the home defeat to Widnes that spelt the end for Raper was something similar? I know from a good source at the time that the players wanted him out. http://wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=640 I think that was the same day that Whelan walked across the pitch as the players were warming up and started pointing the finger at the players basically telling them that they were playing for their future. I might be wrong, but I'm sure that Raper was due to leave the club at the end of that season anyway and the club and Raper ''mutually'' agreed for him to leave. I know he was fuming after the Whelan incedent and I was lead to believe that it was his decision more than anything.

: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:59 pm  

Alex BP' wrote:

I think that was the same day that Whelan walked across the pitch as the players were warming up and started pointing the finger at the players basically telling them that they were playing for their future.

I might be wrong, but I'm sure that Raper was due to leave the club at the end of that season anyway and the club and Raper ''mutually'' agreed for him to leave.

I know he was fuming after the Whelan incedent and I was lead to believe that it was his decision more than anything.

I think it was mate yeah.

: Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:17 pm  

Whelan walked onto the pitch once prior to a Wakefield fixture.

: Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:20 pm  

Just found this: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 88823.html The same could be said of events at Wigan last week. The writing was on the wall for Stuart Raper as soon as the club's owner, Dave Whelan, came on to the field to deliver the pre-match talk for him and, sure enough, Raper announced that he was leaving at the end of the season. Defeat by Widnes, however, was enough to change that timescale, and Raper was told that he was leaving with immediate effect. That gives an opportunity to his No 2, Mike Gregory, who has been put in charge, along with Denis Betts, until the end of the season - or until someone changes their mind.

Just found this: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 88823.html The same could be said of events at Wigan last week. The writing was on the wall for Stuart Raper as soon as the club's owner, Dave Whelan, came on to the field to deliver the pre-match talk for him and, sure enough, Raper announced that he was leaving at the end of the season. Defeat by Widnes, however, was enough to change that timescale, and Raper was told that he was leaving with immediate effect. That gives an opportunity to his No 2, Mike Gregory, who has been put in charge, along with Denis Betts, until the end of the season - or until someone changes their mind.