: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:20 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

The toilets would look like Mohammed Ali's local laundrette

Like it

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:22 pm  

RobotMonster wrote:

It would certainly make clubs more likely to weed out and line up any drug takers within its ranks and fire them off. I think Wigan should take a hard line over this matter and test our players off our own backs. Drugs in pro sports is a big no no.

Thats along the lines i was thinking when i made the original post.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:22 pm  

It's interesting how people's reactions throughout RL differ from thier reactions to the St Helens academy player who failed a drugs test for cocaine.

As I said at the time, would the same treatment which he got be given to a top player, and everyones reactions be the same. I've got my answer I think..

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:24 pm  

I believe that if everyone was tested this weekend for example there would be a lot of players panicking.

We all know the rumours about other players at different clubs as well as just wigan (and I know that is all they are),but why dont the authorities knock it on the head now and set the right example.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:25 pm  

wireontour wrote:

Even the "best" player in the world at the time Andrew Johns later admitted to using drugs. Went down in my estimations after that.

I know. I don't see why players do it. I just can't see the logic with such short careers and usually they don't get a life changing amount after it.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:26 pm  

MattyB wrote:

Gaz Hock should be sacked with immediate effect once results are in.

I agree. Whilst this news is a massive blow, I'm trying to see if any positives can come from it and I've a feeling that it may signal the beginning of the end of the appaling culture and attitude at Wigan that has seen numerous coaches come & go as they fail to motivate the set of lacklustre fecks.

Hock is what can be considered a senior pro at Wigan. A 'star' of the team. If this is how senior stars behave, what hope is there for instilling a positive culture at the club. Like Rads put it recently, junior members used to come into the team in awe of the senior pros. naughty person attitude at the top = naughty person attitude at the bottom. naughty person attitude full stop. This gives the club a bomb proof excuse to crack down hard, stop the rot and weed out the lame dicks who can only be bothered to turn up one week in five.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:28 pm  

cadoo wrote:

I know. I don't see why players do it. I just can't see the logic with such short careers and usually they don't get a life changing amount after it.

It's sad isn't it.

I said on facebook to a mate before i could accept a player getting off his head on ale every night or gambling his money away because that probably won't cost them their careers(even though they'd still be daft to do it) but i can't accept them taking drugs when they know a ban awaits them!

Why would you risk such a fantastic career when it's ultimatly a short one.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:28 pm  

cant believe the consenus on here for keeping Chock on!! the 'hes made a mistake comment', and 'he'll only go to a rival in 2 yrs why punish us'

Allow hock to come back and what message do you send out to the rest.....?! 'Yeah do drugs, theres only a small chance of getting caught and if you do you'll only be out for 2 years and we'll take you back on?'

The only way the punishment ever bites is that players like hock never play for this great club again! The message that needs to be sent is 'Yes hock may play for a lesser club in 2 years (which as a side point is ludicrous IMO...it should be a lifetime ban)....he might make a comeback with warrington, wakefield, huddersfield, castleford etc. but he will NEVER play for his home town club, the biggest name in RL AGAIN. You can only make the punishment count if hock never wears the cherry and white again!! Maybe then, if he can grow a brain cell, he might just look back in 20 years time and think 'What an idiot i really was'.

Only then will the rest of the team and other players in RL think about taking drugs!

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:29 pm  

Orrell Lad wrote:

80%

Don't talk utter bollox

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I agree its not 80% in my experience, but its a damn sight more than most think! At the end of the day, he has made a big mistake, as lets face
it, he isnt going to get as well paid a job doing anything else, and im assuming he has a mortgauge that will require paying.

However its not like he has killed someone, are there 30 plus pages on Greg Bird? No!

However i read this news today, with a groing sence of apathy about what was once my great club.

A good majority of people on these boards, know that this has been going on for some years now, not just this player, but others have been talked about, and the club has just turned a blind eye to this! Im sure they will come out with the usuall about not conding this and so on, but if people who arnt invloved with the club see this, how can people involved not see it!

Very sad day for Wigan, as once again the club is dragged down by stupidity!

Last point, if he failed a test on friday night, and coke stays in your system for upto 75 hours, that means a tuesday/wednesday night session has got him into trouble.

That is pathetic to be honnest. I can understand (not condone) it on a friday/saturday night! But a tuesday night in wigan! Its hardly New York round here!

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:31 pm  

Jimmy Birts Lives On wrote:

I agree. Whilst this news is a massive blow, I'm trying to see if any positives can come from it and I've a feeling that it may signal the beginning of the end of the appaling culture and attitude at Wigan that has seen numerous coaches come & go as they fail to motivate the set of lacklustre fecks.

Hock is what can be considered a senior pro at Wigan. A 'star' of the team. If this is how senior stars behave, what hope is there for instilling a positive culture at the club. Like Rads put it recently, junior members used to come into the team in awe of the senior pros. naughty person attitude at the top = naughty person attitude at the bottom. naughty person attitude full stop. This gives the club a bomb proof excuse to crack down hard, stop the rot and weed out the lame dicks who can only be bothered to turn up one week in five.

Fully Agree -