Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Sun May 19, 2024 10:16 pm  

LewCharnock wrote:

Great performance yesterday. That first 40 was a real statement to the other teams; when we're on like that, we're very, very difficult to beat.

Nsemba turned the tables on Lewis, compared to a few weeks ago. That boy is a superstar and unfortunately, the NRL awaits in a few years.

I'm optimistic we'll finish the job at Wembley, it all starts with our intent in defence. You could tell from minute 1 yesterday, that we were fully dialled in.

Totally agree that when we start so positively we are hard to beat.
Wire will be confident which I think will suit us down to the ground.

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 6:59 am  

Thomson is going to make a huge difference for us this season. Having a prop than can play 80 mins at that level gives us so many options and helps make the most out of Mago and include another impact forward in Walters. The fact Walters can also play prop covers any injury issues. Add Havard into the mix as another who plays long minutes we have plenty of options through the game.

Keep up the same intensity and discipline in big games and we'll be hard to beat. Looking forward to the final to get a benchmark on how good Warrington are this season.

Regarding the BBC coverage, yet again the BBC go into a game with a pre set narrative about the teams and point out how unfortunate they have been in not being allowed to play their attractive exciting rugby.

The 'mistake' they made made over the forward pass was ridiculous and they just followed the narrative from there - now there are fans from every team saying how bent the refs are in favouring wigan yet again........

I was amazed at the time that nothing was said about Hiku on Field - as blatant a red as you will see. A wigan prop doing that it would have been a very different story. Lucky that Field saw it coming and lifted his arm to protect his face.

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 8:51 am  

Big Steve wrote:

Thomson is going to make a huge difference for us this season. Having a prop than can play 80 mins at that level gives us so many options and helps make the most out of Mago and include another impact forward in Walters. The fact Walters can also play prop covers any injury issues. Add Havard into the mix as another who plays long minutes we have plenty of options through the game.

Keep up the same intensity and discipline in big games and we'll be hard to beat. Looking forward to the final to get a benchmark on how good Warrington are this season.

Regarding the BBC coverage, yet again the BBC go into a game with a pre set narrative about the teams and point out how unfortunate they have been in not being allowed to play their attractive exciting rugby.

The 'mistake' they made made over the forward pass was ridiculous and they just followed the narrative from there - now there are fans from every team saying how bent the refs are in favouring wigan yet again........

I was amazed at the time that nothing was said about Hiku on Field - as blatant a red as you will see. A wigan prop doing that it would have been a very different story. Lucky that Field saw it coming and lifted his arm to protect his face.

All I would say is that if fans are following the commentators narrative then they don’t know the rules either.

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 9:28 am  

Zig wrote:

All I would say is that if fans are following the commentators narrative then they don’t know the rules either.

I totally agree. We should all have learned long ago that British RL's commentators mostly talk crud, and compared to the NRL guys, are an acute embarrassment.

But whereas Eddie and Stevo set new standards for shameless bias, what we're seeing now, from both the Beeb and Sky, is an amateurish attempt to create the impression the league is filled with teams who are equal to each other. If it isn't Barry Mac calling unknown journeymen 'the best in the world' at whatever they just happened to have done, it's the whole team spending the halftime round-up at Leigh v Wigan pretending the game is on a knife-edge when in reality, Leigh are being well beaten.

The plain fact of this last weekend is that both Hull KR and Huddersfield got well and truly owned.

Huddersfield were substandard all over the park. They didn't even do the basic defensive work, and don't look as if they deserve their mid-table position (which speaks volumes on its own). Hull KR, while they're a better bet, were totally outplayed. Mikey Lewis will always be a threat because of his tricky running, but he was completely unconnected to the rest of his team.

Anyone who genuinely knows the game will have seen that for themselves and no amount of spinning that result into some kind of injustice will fool them.

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 10:38 am  

Cruncher wrote:

I totally agree. We should all have learned long ago that British RL's commentators mostly talk crud, and compared to the NRL guys, are an acute embarrassment.

But whereas Eddie and Stevo set new standards for shameless bias, what we're seeing now, from both the Beeb and Sky, is an amateurish attempt to create the impression the league is filled with teams who are equal to each other. If it isn't Barry Mac calling unknown journeymen 'the best in the world' at whatever they just happened to have done, it's the whole team spending the halftime round-up at Leigh v Wigan pretending the game is on a knife-edge when in reality, Leigh are being well beaten.

The plain fact of this last weekend is that both Hull KR and Huddersfield got well and truly owned.

Huddersfield were substandard all over the park. They didn't even do the basic defensive work, and don't look as if they deserve their mid-table position (which speaks volumes on its own). Hull KR, while they're a better bet, were totally outplayed. Mikey Lewis will always be a threat because of his tricky running, but he was completely unconnected to the rest of his team.

Anyone who genuinely knows the game will have seen that for themselves and no amount of spinning that result into some kind of injustice will fool them.

The problem, Cruncher, is that the emptiest vessels make the loudest noise. Take RedVee as an example. The grown ups came out to play yesterday and, as a result ,the posts were far, far more balanced and, despite many posters understandably not being happy about Wigan being as good as they were, they had no problem acknowledging it. However the "empty vessels" were already set in their narrative and no amount of sense was going to detract them.

So it is with the BBC/social media/Sky etc. The empty vessel that is John Wilkin decided a narrative and the rest followed suit. The ridiculous number of times he questioned a decision that he, himself, had called as correct (the offside) was ludicrous yet no one pulled him up on it.

Unfortunately the number of people that "know" the game is dwarfed by those who simply don't or merely have a passing interest in the game.

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 10:48 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

The problem, Cruncher, is that the emptiest vessels make the loudest noise. Take RedVee as an example. The grown ups came out to play yesterday and, as a result ,the posts were far, far more balanced and, despite many posters understandably not being happy about Wigan being as good as they were, they had no problem acknowledging it. However the "empty vessels" were already set in their narrative and no amount of sense was going to detract them.

So it is with the BBC/social media/Sky etc. The empty vessel that is John Wilkin decided a narrative and the rest followed suit. The ridiculous number of times he questioned a decision that he, himself, had called as correct (the offside) was ludicrous yet no one pulled him up on it.

Unfortunately the number of people that "know" the game is dwarfed by those who simply don't or merely have a passing interest in the game.

I don't disagree with that. I was infuriated a few years ago with Sky, when Phil Clark said that Shaun Wane only won so much at Wigan because Wigan spent more money than anyone else. It was a blatant lie, seemingly designed to denigrate Shaun Wane's achievements as Wigan coach, and no one challenged him on it.

Things like that can indeed be damaging. It's frustrating, but it seems to be the story of our life. It's certainly nothing new.

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 1:56 pm  

Ellis and Walters one game ban each, it's a conspiracy against us (RedVee mode activated)

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 1:59 pm  

How Hiku and Opacic got away with their offences and Walter gets pulled up for his I’ll never know

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 2:03 pm  

Is this definite? I've seen conflicting reports. If this is right it's an absolute joke that Hiku hasn't received a substantial ban.

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 2:06 pm  

Similar to how the NRL explain 'bunker' decisions, I think we need to start seeing a weekly video where these MRP decisions are explained (and yes Wigan have had questionable calls go their way as well).