The more and more I see and hear of IL the more and more I'm starting to dislike him.
Broken promises, un-fulfilled obligations, sneaking around behind BN's back (allegedly). I do not see how and where IL is sorting this mess out, all I can see is that he's plunging us deeper into it.
Careful. You can't criticise him around here. One does wonder though what this place would be like if everything was as is, but Mo & Whelan where in charge.
IL will do some media friendly quote to the evening post and everyone will assume everything is super again.
If people have the balls to ask the questions the fans forum should be interesting!
I've not by the way but if I did i'd want to ask him exactly what you've put there about the promises he made for 2010 when he took over and why those promises seem to be getting pushed back a year!
He went to Australia in 2008 saying he was looking at players for 2010 and rumours of a move for the likes of Ryan Hoffman were brewing yet he then went again this year and talked about looking more at players for 2011. Some would say he's planning ahead which is fine but he's got to get the results or people will be royally pi*sed off.
I've seen them bomb a quarter final, bottle a semi final, finish as league leaders, but I've still, never, seen the Wire win the league Doom and gloom, doom and gloom
If people have the balls to ask the questions the fans forum should be interesting!
he wont discuss names, numbers, figures, dates, his own actions/liabilities as its personal attacks
FF are a complete waste of time, money and effort. what really will you find out? the first one at deanery seemed good cos they were writing stuff down we were saying and were all like 'yeah we'll definitely look into that' (west stand score board) but pretty much nothing changed.
satisfies the types who want to know how many weetabix joe lydon has for breakfast.
he wont discuss names, numbers, figures, dates, his own actions/liabilities as its personal attacks
FF are a complete waste of time, money and effort. what really will you find out? the first one at deanery seemed good cos they were writing stuff down we were saying and were all like 'yeah we'll definitely look into that' (west stand score board) but pretty much nothing changed.
Fully agree with that mate.
The first one seemed brilliant because it seemed the fans where being listened to etc.
he wont discuss names, numbers, figures, dates, his own actions/liabilities as its personal attacks
FF are a complete waste of time, money and effort. what really will you find out? the first one at deanery seemed good cos they were writing stuff down we were saying and were all like 'yeah we'll definitely look into that' (west stand score board) but pretty much nothing changed.
satisfies the types who want to know how many weetabix joe lydon has for breakfast.
Joe's weetabix intake, the disabled parking and the favour of crisps available on the concourse are all huge issues for the club though
Agree about the forum but it would be funny of somebody really put the testing questions out there and see if we get the answears.
he wont discuss names, numbers, figures, dates, his own actions/liabilities as its personal attacks
FF are a complete waste of time, money and effort. what really will you find out? the first one at deanery seemed good cos they were writing stuff down we were saying and were all like 'yeah we'll definitely look into that' (west stand score board) but pretty much nothing changed.
satisfies the types who want to know how many weetabix joe lydon has for breakfast.
I couldn't care if he won't discuss names etc etc. If you don't ask you don't get.
TBH I'm not interested in names etc, I just want to know why the f*ck we keep putting this 'big year' back. Whelan when Noble was appointed '2008/2009', IL when he first came '2010', IL little over a week or so ago '2011'.
I don't know about anybody else but I'm sick of it. I'm sick of listening to the results on SSN/SS1 (can't make many Wigan games) and feeling embarassed.
Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid. Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal. Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.
The goodthing about Maurice Lyndsey is that he would follow bad news up with good news and I was never like this when he was in charge. After the whole Hock thing/ Celtic loss we should have announced a signing for next year.
If we get beat in the semi final or final then announce the 'marque signing'. To keep the fans happy.
Knowing us we will speak to Price, Civoneceva, Kite, Bailey and then go and sign Don Brennan or Douglas Bader.
Luke Douglas is a decent player for Cronulla, I could see him being on the evrge of Origin next year as will Beau Scott and Mark Minichello (both good second rowers).
We will end up with Ben Ross, Darrell Griffin and Danny Orr/Orford.
The goodthing about Maurice Lyndsey is that he would follow bad news up with good news and I was never like this when he was in charge. After the whole Hock thing/ Celtic loss we should have announced a signing for next year.
If we get beat in the semi final or final then announce the 'marque signing'. To keep the fans happy.
Knowing us we will speak to Price, Civoneceva, Kite, Bailey and then go and sign Don Brennan or Douglas Bader.
Luke Douglas is a decent player for Cronulla, I could see him being on the evrge of Origin next year as will Beau Scott and Mark Minichello (both good second rowers).
Danny Orr? FFS!!!!!!!
We will end up with Ben Ross, Darrell Griffin and Danny Orr/Orford.
Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS
The goodthing about Maurice Lyndsey is that he would follow bad news up with good news and I was never like this when he was in charge. After the whole Hock thing/ Celtic loss we should have announced a signing for next year.
If we get beat in the semi final or final then announce the 'marque signing'. To keep the fans happy.
Knowing us we will speak to Price, Civoneceva, Kite, Bailey and then go and sign Don Brennan or Douglas Bader.
Luke Douglas is a decent player for Cronulla, I could see him being on the evrge of Origin next year as will Beau Scott and Mark Minichello (both good second rowers).
We will end up with Ben Ross, Darrell Griffin and Danny Orr/Orford.
I think they would of announced a big signing by now if we had one.
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