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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:09 pm  
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There's a race? Jeez.


For me there is and always will be potential in Dudson and that's why some teams will take a punt on him.

It's not worked out for him at Wigan but still i think he could carve out a decent career at SL level. I even think in a few seasons that if he gets his head straight he could be a very good player.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:29 pm  
Anyone heard the rumor that we might be seeing a familiar 90's WRLFC surname on the team sheets this season?

Let's hope he can kick as well as his dad.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:58 pm  
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Anyone heard the rumor that we might be seeing a familiar 90's WRLFC surname on the team sheets this season?

Let's hope he can kick as well as his dad.


Ben Botica?
Haven't heard anything and I can't see it happening. Isn't he at Harlequins?
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:01 pm  
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Ben Botica?
Haven't heard anything and I can't see it happening. Isn't he at Harlequins?


That's what I've heard but from RU connections. He's not getting in the Quins team as much as he'd like.

Is there a rule that exempts a % of an RU signings salary from the cap?
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:25 pm  
sergeant pepper wrote:
That's what I've heard but from RU connections. He's not getting in the Quins team as much as he'd like.

Is there a rule that exempts a % of an RU signings salary from the cap?


Yes,
It's under the "New talent Pool" Section E1 of the RFL Operational Rules

Basically first year salary counts as on the salary cap, 2nd year at 50%

Just type Salary cap into the search under ALL SECTIONS
http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... ion=INTRO1


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‘New Talent Pool Players Allowance’
The intention behind this allowance is to remove any disincentive Clubs might feel in considering signing untried players from Rugby League development areas and/or other sports.

The HSCR will administer the allowance in pursuit of this intention in the event of any cases where there is a doubt as to whether the individual in question should qualify for an allowance.

An allowance against the calculation of a player’s Salary Cap Value is available under the provisions of this clause 5.12 as follows:

(a) a person who:
(i) has attained age 19 on 31st August prior to the start of the season (e.g. 31st August 2012 for the 2013 season),
(ii) has not played Rugby League at any age group or level, subject to the HSCR’s ability to use his reasonable discretion to override this restriction so that, non-exhaustively, it would ordinarily apply only to those who have not:
(a) played Rugby League for any participant club or team in a national 1st tier senior grade competition (including for example, the European Super League, UK Championships, any of the Australian NRL competitions, French Elite Championship, New Zealand’s national competitions),
(b) played for a team in a national Rugby League development competition (including non-exhaustively, the RFL’s Academy competitions and the NRL’s National Youth Competition), and/or
(c) participated in and/or played RFL Scholarship age group Rugby League (or any equivalent Rugby League programmes based in other countries not covered in (ii) (a) or (b) above)
shall, for the purposes of the allowance set out in this clause 5.12, be known as a ‘New Talent Pool Player’,

(b) subject to (c) below, where a Club registers a New Talent Pool Player, that player’s Salary Cap Value will be reduced in accordance with the following provisions:
(i) in respect of the period up to the end of the New Talent Pool Player’s first full Salary Cap Year with the Club, his Salary Cap Value will be reduced to £0 (and for the avoidance of doubt, where the New Talent Pool Player is registered on or after 1st February during a Salary Cap Year, that year will not count as the one full Salary Cap Year to which this allowance applies),
(ii) in respect of the period up to the end of the New Talent Pool Player’s second full Salary Cap Year, his Salary Cap Value will be reduced by 50%,

(c) the New Talent Pool Player allowance set out in (b) above is subject to the following conditions:

(i) Clubs are limited to 2 New Talent Pool Players to whom the New Talent Pool Players allowance can apply to at any time,
(ii) where a Club has more than 2 New Talent Pool Players registered, it may notify the HSCR as to which 2 of its New Talent Pool Players the allowance will apply,
(iii) for the avoidance of doubt, where a New Talent Pool Player moves to another Club the allowance is available to his new Club but shall not extend beyond the period it would have endured had he remained at his original Club.
sergeant pepper wrote:
That's what I've heard but from RU connections. He's not getting in the Quins team as much as he'd like.

Is there a rule that exempts a % of an RU signings salary from the cap?


Yes,
It's under the "New talent Pool" Section E1 of the RFL Operational Rules

Basically first year salary counts as on the salary cap, 2nd year at 50%

Just type Salary cap into the search under ALL SECTIONS
http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... ion=INTRO1


E1:5:12
‘New Talent Pool Players Allowance’
The intention behind this allowance is to remove any disincentive Clubs might feel in considering signing untried players from Rugby League development areas and/or other sports.

The HSCR will administer the allowance in pursuit of this intention in the event of any cases where there is a doubt as to whether the individual in question should qualify for an allowance.

An allowance against the calculation of a player’s Salary Cap Value is available under the provisions of this clause 5.12 as follows:

(a) a person who:
(i) has attained age 19 on 31st August prior to the start of the season (e.g. 31st August 2012 for the 2013 season),
(ii) has not played Rugby League at any age group or level, subject to the HSCR’s ability to use his reasonable discretion to override this restriction so that, non-exhaustively, it would ordinarily apply only to those who have not:
(a) played Rugby League for any participant club or team in a national 1st tier senior grade competition (including for example, the European Super League, UK Championships, any of the Australian NRL competitions, French Elite Championship, New Zealand’s national competitions),
(b) played for a team in a national Rugby League development competition (including non-exhaustively, the RFL’s Academy competitions and the NRL’s National Youth Competition), and/or
(c) participated in and/or played RFL Scholarship age group Rugby League (or any equivalent Rugby League programmes based in other countries not covered in (ii) (a) or (b) above)
shall, for the purposes of the allowance set out in this clause 5.12, be known as a ‘New Talent Pool Player’,

(b) subject to (c) below, where a Club registers a New Talent Pool Player, that player’s Salary Cap Value will be reduced in accordance with the following provisions:
(i) in respect of the period up to the end of the New Talent Pool Player’s first full Salary Cap Year with the Club, his Salary Cap Value will be reduced to £0 (and for the avoidance of doubt, where the New Talent Pool Player is registered on or after 1st February during a Salary Cap Year, that year will not count as the one full Salary Cap Year to which this allowance applies),
(ii) in respect of the period up to the end of the New Talent Pool Player’s second full Salary Cap Year, his Salary Cap Value will be reduced by 50%,

(c) the New Talent Pool Player allowance set out in (b) above is subject to the following conditions:

(i) Clubs are limited to 2 New Talent Pool Players to whom the New Talent Pool Players allowance can apply to at any time,
(ii) where a Club has more than 2 New Talent Pool Players registered, it may notify the HSCR as to which 2 of its New Talent Pool Players the allowance will apply,
(iii) for the avoidance of doubt, where a New Talent Pool Player moves to another Club the allowance is available to his new Club but shall not extend beyond the period it would have endured had he remained at his original Club.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:35 pm  
Botica can kick OK from what I've seen and looks like he could be a decent prospect.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:36 pm  
sergeant pepper wrote:
That's what I've heard but from RU connections. He's not getting in the Quins team as much as he'd like.

Is there a rule that exempts a % of an RU signings salary from the cap?


Botica sustained a shoulder injury back in October and was ruled out for 3 months. See below.



"Harlequins have signed South African fly-half Tim Swiel on loan from Sharks until February.

The 21-year-old will act as cover for the injured Ben Botica, who has been ruled out until the new year following shoulder surgery."
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:39 pm  
Yeah he has been injured not dropped. Made his comeback today and kicked 4 goals for Quins.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:02 pm  
Didn't he play at St Judes as a (very young) junior?
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:05 pm  
Anyone heard any more of the Budgie to Sydney Roosters in 2016 rumour that was going around towards the end of last season. All seems to have gone quiet since. Ryan Sutton was linked with them too.
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