: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:31 pm  

Madderzahatter wrote: bye bye Bails - http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/s ... 66,00.html

Madderzahatter wrote: bye bye Bails - http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/s ... 66,00.html

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:31 pm  

W!64N_ENTHUSI45T wrote:

Swap deal with Orford?

Bails off contract though

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:33 pm  

Richards is superman! wrote:

Bails off contract though

Yep, but interesting to read it's been him contacting NRL clubs rather than the other way round.
If he got a gig with a team like Manly I'd be surprised.

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:42 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

Yep, but interesting to read it's been him contacting NRL clubs rather than the other way round.
If he got a gig with a team like Manly I'd be surprised.

He may also be contacting them due to the fact he's been told he wont be given a new contract, hope because we wont have Hock the club don't now offer him a new deal.

rl : Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:41 pm  

His departure will open a quota spot for a top quality import!
Preferably a prop or half back!

Re: rl : Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:16 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

His departure will open a quota spot for a top quality import!
Preferably a prop or half back!

There is no one good enough in this country other than Myler to take the place at half back so we must look overseas fora prop and a Half back.

: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:54 am  

I'm just bit worried about losing someone who appears to have experience a level head and probably commands respect in the changing room.

Granted he probably isn't worth the quota spot and i don't know his wages but if his replacement is another youngster, we'll soon be lacking experience and be a step further away from getting back the culture of the club as we have little players with experience to guide these new academy players.

By the looks of it in the next 2 years we could have Tomkins, Ainscough, Flanagan, Farrel, Mossop, Thornley and Davis either in the first team or pushing the bench spot. Thats a lot of inexperience. It's vital one of our next signings will be able to settle the changing room and guide these players from young lads playing rugby into professional sportsmen.

We need a player like Pongia, C.Smith or Lammy someone to really focus them and keep them from thinking that they have "made it". A new coach may be able to help but i think we need a player to do that.

I honestly believe O'Loughlin will be able to do this but another player to help wouldn't hurt.

: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:34 am  

The situation with Hock can't cloud the clubs judgment on Bailey. He isn't good enough and him being at the club next year will hold the 2 or 3 young players we have in his position back and we can't let that happen.

I'd still sign a replacment for Hock if one were available but Baileys place should go to Mossop, Farrell or Flanagan.

: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:41 am  

Madderzahatter wrote: bye bye Bails - http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/s ... 66,00.html excellent news this - he must have been told we arent looking to extend his contract. In the bad old days I would have said it was a ploy by the player's agent to whip up a bit of interest so uncle Mo would re-sign him on an even bigger contract

Madderzahatter wrote: bye bye Bails - http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/s ... 66,00.html excellent news this - he must have been told we arent looking to extend his contract. In the bad old days I would have said it was a ploy by the player's agent to whip up a bit of interest so uncle Mo would re-sign him on an even bigger contract

: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:48 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

The situation with Hock can't cloud the clubs judgment on Bailey. He isn't good enough and him being at the club next year will hold the 2 or 3 young players we have in his position back and we can't let that happen.

I'd still sign a replacment for Hock if one were available but Baileys place should go to Mossop, Farrell or Flanagan.

Agreed. We don't need Bailey. His age and his nationality are against him. I just hope this, along with the Hock fiasco, doesn't change the dynamic of our recruitment policy and means we now start looking for a second row instead of a prop or half. We've got the back-row covered among our own ranks already.