: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:07 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Even without a brain Hock was the best second rower in superleague. If he had a brain he could have been an alltime great and he wouldn't have thrown it all away like this!

Something like this has been on the cards for years i'm afraid.

He isnt too bright - the incident with the ref last year showed that but tbh taking drugs knowing your going to be tested and knowing the penalty for doing so goes beyond the normal level of stupid.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:09 pm  

DaveO wrote:

No they don't "all" get tested. It's random testing and so that means its quite possible for a player not to be selected for testing for weeks on end.

I thought two players from each side are tested after each game, not the entire team. So had Hock been luckier with the draw we would not have this thread.

Dave

It's still a pretty big gamble to take with your career isn't it?
I bet he thinks it was not worth it now.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:10 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

I'll be shocked if he isnt sacked (assuming of course the B sample comes back positive and the RL hand out the standard 2 year ban)

That will be left up to the club, he certainly will be de-registered and so his salary will not be counted on the cap. I just hope that the club sit down with hock and come to an agreement that sees him pull on the wigan shirt once his ban is complete. I cant see hock getting a job that pays as well elsewhere as drug bans in league are upheld in union and vise versa

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:10 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Wouldn't have happened under Edwards.

You are Johnny Vegas and i claim my £5

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:11 pm  

1878 wrote:

Help for what?

I wondered that too - people always assume people who have taken any kind of drug need' help' I think it's the politically correct thing to say but it's a load of pap.. it's not like he's auditioning for a part in Trainspotting 2 is it , he made a stupid mistake (the mistake is mainly because he is a professional - taking recreational drugs is a choice just like smoking or drinking large amounts of beer) but ultimately he's not done something I'm sure alot of people who post on here havent done and is certainly no worse than alot of people you see out in Wigan on a friday/saturday night.

As a sportsman he has let himself and his club down

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:12 pm  

debaser wrote:

I'm pretty sure thats not the case, would you care to support suce a sweeping generalisation with some evidence?

I don't have evidence, its just an opinion, and i wouldn't be suprised if alot of players have use drugs, because recreational drugs are everywhere in this day and age. If Hock's used the stuff, would you rekon his mates, or friends from the Wigan first team might have used it? Use your brains, i can't see him doing this act alone.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:13 pm  

cmscwarn wrote:

That will be left up to the club, he certainly will be de-registered and so his salary will not be counted on the cap. I just hope that the club sit down with hock and come to an agreement that sees him pull on the wigan shirt once his ban is complete. I cant see hock getting a job that pays as well elsewhere as drug bans in league are upheld in union and vise versa

The RL will de register him so it will save Wigan the bother. Most sports have signed upto the same drugs code (WADA I think) so his ban will be pretty much global. I'm not sure how you could keep his contract and not pay him ..

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:18 pm  

Absolute idiot. He had all the talent in the world and the potential to become one of the best England has produced but has blown it all away (no pun intended).

Can he still play amateur RL? Wigan can't possibly keep hold of him - if his B sample is found positive. So that's where I suspect he'll go. I honestly can't believe his stupidity.

It's no secret some SL players do/have had cocaine - it's the same in most sports.

What for our SR now? Recall Mossop? Promote Farrell? This really has fcked us up.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:19 pm  

I wouldnt sack him i would de-register him

I know sacking him would be the moral thing to do to show how serious this his..But the moral will be out the window from the rest of SL when its time for him to come back and to sign for someone.

Hock owes Wigan big time. so he needs to prove this will make him a better person

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:19 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

Absolute idiot. He had all the talent in the world and the potential to become one of the best England has produced but has blown it all away (no pun intended).

Can he still play amateur RL? Wigan can't possibly keep hold of him - if his B sample is found positive. So that's where I suspect he'll go. I honestly can't believe his stupidity.

It's no secret some SL players do/have had cocaine - it's the same in most sports.

What for our SR now? Recall Mossop? Promote Farrell? This really has fcked us up.

Not 100% sure but I doubt it.