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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:27 am  
We looked at Sam Hopkins a couple of years ago before he turned pro with Leigh, he's coming on very well, big aggressive forward. Not sure if he'll be the enforcer type but he's attracting a lot of attention at the moment I hear.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:52 pm  
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On yesterdays showing a big, tough enforcer prop is a must. Our pack is still too lightweight.


That's a bit of an overreaction.

Yes, Lima needs to be replaced with a big b*stard of a prop, but to say that the pack who've dominated pretty much every team in the division this year is still too lightweight isn't fair.

Yes, they were rubbish yesterday, but every Wigan fan knows that yesterday's showing wasn't typical of our forwards.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:57 pm  
Gill Dudson will be a MASSIVE add for us next year.

I certainly don't think our pack is A-either light weight or not as good as any other in the league.

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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:11 pm  
The pack can be a little lightweight or ineffective when one or two players are missing or are out of form like right now.

We'll have Mossop, Prescott, Lauaki, Flower, Dudson, Crosby, Spencer and Burke at prop as it stands next year.

Prescott should be discounted from that list because assuming he'll be fit is simply naive. If he does find fitness it's a massive bonus.

Out of the remaining props, Mossop at his best is international class and one of the best props in the league. As for the rest? Nowhere near.

Lauaki is decent in a dominant pack but doesn't create a dominant pack so to speak. He'll do damage when the team is doing well but he just doesn't make an impact or carry the team like Lima and Mossop can.

Flower works hard, he has his good moments but is prone to some pretty bad lapses in defence. He's a good '4th choice' so to speak.

Dudson showed excellent promise but we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. He's still young for a prop; young forwards can have lots of ups and downs before reaching their peak. His performances for the first team were good yet his performances for the under 20's were generally poor. He's still has that error strewn, penalty ridden part of his game hidden away.

Crosby is a good prospect but is too lightweight. He won't make the pack any more competitive at a high level. He's good to provide cover and possibly push for a place on the bench but there's a long way to go for him yet.

Spencer hasn't look convincing at all in the first team. He has to show a lot more before he can be considered as someone who might challenge the established props.

Burke is a player who I think could really kick on next year. His form for the under 20's is now much better than earlier in the year. However I don't see the point in playing him at prop at this stage. He'll be too easily dominated like most young props are. He's a very good second row forward and that would be a better position to introduce him into Super League in my opinion.

So for me our pack next year will be lightweight and won't be good enough unless we sign a very good prop. Preferably one with experience too.

I also think we desperately need to sign a back up hooker. Should McIlorum get injured we're in real trouble. Logan Tomkins hasn't shown anything to suggest he'll be good enough and we can't afford to just hope that he'll come good. Carberry isn't good enough either although he could become a decent loose forward as he looks much better in that position.

So I think Wane and Lenegan need to look at which hookers are available for next year and find someone who would be a suitable back up. If Wane doesn't want a hooker on the bench then it will have to be someone who wouldn't mind sitting out a few games, so a young player or a much more experienced player who doesn't mind being a bit part player.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:30 pm  
I think we need to make a few new signings for next year, but there isn't much quality knocking around is there.
A prop, Stand off and a hooker. I think McIlorum is doing too many minutes, looks like hes knackered himself out to be honest, certainly not as effective lately and personlly I dont think Logan is good enough, I think he's living on the name.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:21 pm  
What about Diskin?

Looked a little chubby on Friday but that is easily sorted.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:41 pm  
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What about Diskin?

Looked a little chubby on Friday but that is easily sorted.


Diskin would be ideal in my opinion assuming he's still in good shape. He was brilliant for Leeds at a time when they were very successful. He's got plenty of experience in big games and is still a very smart player who seems to be doing well for Bradford interchanging with Heath L'Estrange. He can also play at loose forward too if I'm not mistaken so offers versatility during games.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:23 am  
Jamie langley looked good on Friday night. I can see him moving to prop shortly in his career. Not suggesting we shoulkd sign him though.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:32 am  
Langley would make an excellent prop 'if' he could stay fit but he's never been able to.

Dudson will be a big plus for us next year but I feel we do need an aggressive ball carrier to be signed as well. Lauaki has been playing pretty well but lacks leg drive and Mossop needs to go back to the drawing board in terms of how he wants to progress his game. I like Prescott but his injury record is poor and his ball retention is a worry.

A prop and a halfback are musts.
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Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:14 am  
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