Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned… : Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:25 pm  

Trainman wrote:

I fully expect the RFL will decide that none of them can use it for their bans as using the game would be against the spirit of the disciplinary process

Flashbacks to Wigan going against the 'spirit' of the salary cap in 2006...

Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned… : Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:26 pm  

Oafy wrote:

Surely you would have had to play in a previous round to be eligible for a final?

Why?

Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned… : Mon Sep 25, 2023 10:55 pm  

Zig wrote:

He did it twice if I remember correctly, what suspension did he get for the other? What about Makinson?

What game did Makinson do it in ?
Don't remember LMS doing it again

Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned… : Tue Sep 26, 2023 12:02 am  

thesaint71 wrote:

What game did Makinson do it in ?
Don't remember LMS doing it again

This was sent to me earlier before the Bans were given

Law 15.1 Deliberate or reckless physical contact with a match official ( eg placing hand on arm to attract attention)

Last season McCarthy-Scarsbrook (August and September) and Makinson (September) were charged with this offence. LMS escaped a ban for the first offence and received one match for the second. Makinson was cautioned.

Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned… : Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:33 am  

Jukesays wrote:

This was sent to me earlier before the Bans were given

Law 15.1 Deliberate or reckless physical contact with a match official ( eg placing hand on arm to attract attention)

Last season McCarthy-Scarsbrook (August and September) and Makinson (September) were charged with this offence. LMS escaped a ban for the first offence and received one match for the second. Makinson was cautioned.

Thank you Jukesays, that has saved me some work. All this about Wigan being treated leniently is a figment of some people’s imagination.

Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned… : Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:42 am  

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ev ... an-in-2023 I’m pretty sure there’s a large number of occasions that pre season friendlies have been used too

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ev ... an-in-2023 I’m pretty sure there’s a large number of occasions that pre season friendlies have been used too

Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned… : Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:43 am  

thesaint71 wrote:

Been told only one player can serve their ban in the reserve game

By whom?

Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned… : Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:45 am  

Zig wrote:

Thank you Jukesays, that has saved me some work. All this about Wigan being treated leniently is a figment of some people’s imagination.

If we’re talking about leniency. Remember when Abdull got banned for 8 matches for a squirrel grip when Makinson got 5. Now I’m not sure how that could be ruled any different regardless to passed disciplinary actions

Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned… : Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:09 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

By whom?

He's noted elsewhere that his info was incorrect Rogues.

The whole situation is simply bringing out a lot of peoples hatred to all things Wigan. Reading about various social media platforms and forums, the common line is that Wigan are wrong for 'using a loophole' but these same people haven't mentioned this in the past, when other clubs have benefitted from it. People are also going on about Wigan finding a loophole as though they've filled in some sort of application form or sent an email to the top brass stating they should serve the bans in the reserves. The only way Wigan couldn't benefit from it is if they said themselves 'no, we don't agree with them using it in the reserves and will stand them down from the semi final' and as everyone knows, Wigan and every other club on the planet would not do that. It's the journo's like John Davidson that jump all over it and fail to mention this isn't a new thing or a Wigan thing that annoy me the most.

Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned… : Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:38 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

He's noted elsewhere that his info was incorrect Rogues.

The whole situation is simply bringing out a lot of peoples hatred to all things Wigan. Reading about various social media platforms and forums, the common line is that Wigan are wrong for 'using a loophole' but these same people haven't mentioned this in the past, when other clubs have benefitted from it. People are also going on about Wigan finding a loophole as though they've filled in some sort of application form or sent an email to the top brass stating they should serve the bans in the reserves. The only way Wigan couldn't benefit from it is if they said themselves 'no, we don't agree with them using it in the reserves and will stand them down from the semi final' and as everyone knows, Wigan and every other club on the planet would not do that. It's the journo's like John Davidson that jump all over it and fail to mention this isn't a new thing or a Wigan thing that annoy me the most.

Think League Express have now put a article out about how many times SL clubs have used it