Re: Cup final crowd : Tue May 10, 2022 10:35 am  

Jukesays wrote:

Whilst not being as worried as yourself about the crowd, partly because it will be what it will be at this stage and like I said previously a large proportion of "Fans" (And I basically mean the ones who comment a thousand time more than they actually go) will focus on the negatives that, if anything will negatively influence and impact peoples thoughts.
But
On your point about getting Clubs/Fans to games/Finals I'll say the same thing I've said for 15/20 years

The RFU make it part of their membership criteria that clubs/Amateur clubs etc. take "X" amount of tickets as part of it's membership criteria (Or at least they used to do).

If the RFL made it part of theirs that each SL Team had to take say 100 each, Each Championship/League one club 50 each and say each amateur club had 20 say (People can do the Maths on the ticket numbers etc.) they would be able to get 20/25k sold in advance of the day plus the Neutrals/others who purchase from the RFL
Clubs could Sell/Promote/Raffle these tickets from the start of the year, every year locally etc.
Without going into Boring detail a local sporting organisation bemoaned the fact that their end of season County awards ceremonies had dwindled attendance numbers over the last 10 years and year on year I proposed a similar thing above. Make it a criteria that each Club had to receive "X" tickets and they could raffle them off (So in effect costing them nothing) and people would get a good night out etc.

Numbers doubled the first year they implemented it (Albeit I accept were taking in Hundreds rather than 10's of thousands, but the principal is the same).

Edit - Missed the bit about the enforced 6 week Road trip May/June in my reply
Whilst not ideal, and accepting that Yes it does have a negative impact it is one of those things, for now, we can't control.
And certainly the old "Build our own stadium" crew aren't contributing in any kind of viable way as commercially it just doesn't and wouldn't stack up.

Good idea.

I know those RU tickets are like gold dust. The clubs can sell their allocation (to approved suppliers), or sell to members who want to see England play.

Re: Cup final crowd : Tue May 10, 2022 10:37 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Personally I don't want to move the final away from Wembley because I'm a fan of all things "traditional". The one good thing about this year is I get to go to a new stadium otherwise I'd be peed off that we aren't going to Wembey.

The only place I can think of as a more northern venue that is "good enough" would be Newcastle. 52,400 seats, good area for the weekend and it's not THAT far away. Problem then is where does Magic Weekend go to?

You can't play it at OT because that takes away from the Grand Final, so as you say....what's the answer?

Hopefully the new Everton ground (if it goes ahead) will be a good option.

Re: Cup final crowd : Tue May 10, 2022 11:48 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

I suppose whether it is expensive or not is dependant on what you want to compare it to. The tickets are cheap as chips compared to an England RU Autumn International for example and are certainly cheaper than the FA Cup Final next week (and bear in mind some Liverpool fans will be making a third trip to Wembley inside three months as well) but they are expensive compared to a Lancashire T20 match for example (unless it's Yorkshire)

What I will say, is that RL fans have it FAR easier than any other sporting fan in the country.

I think its unfair to compare us to say Liverpool, whilst they may have had three trips to Wembley, its likely the majority of those crowds won't necessarily be the same supporters over the three games (apart from the few thousand mega rich ones). They could fill their allocations made up of non season ticket holders who have purchased their match tickets from regular season ticket holders or touts. Not many working class lads can afford three Wembley matches, a season ticket, champions league final tickets.... Unless they are drug dealers or their missus is on OnlyFans.

Re: Cup final crowd : Tue May 10, 2022 11:50 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Hopefully the new Everton ground (if it goes ahead) will be a good option.

Does look like a good option, more so than Anfield which has similar legroom to Elland Road (and Economy Ryanair).

Re: Cup final crowd : Tue May 10, 2022 11:52 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Good idea.

I know those RU tickets are like gold dust. The clubs can sell their allocation (to approved suppliers), or sell to members who want to see England play.

Go back to the 80s and at least a quarter of the crowd at Wembley were made up of neutrals made up of Amateur Clubs and rival/lower league clubs. Coaches and coaches of them.

Re: Cup final crowd : Tue May 10, 2022 12:27 pm  

MattyB wrote:

I think its unfair to compare us to say Liverpool, whilst they may have had three trips to Wembley, its likely the majority of those crowds won't necessarily be the same supporters over the three games (apart from the few thousand mega rich ones). They could fill their allocations made up of non season ticket holders who have purchased their match tickets from regular season ticket holders or touts. Not many working class lads can afford three Wembley matches, a season ticket, champions league final tickets.... Unless they are drug dealers or their missus is on OnlyFans.

There will be plenty that have done them all. I know someone who watches them home and away and he is certainly not "mega rich".

At least going to Spurs, nobody can moan about the M62.

Re: Cup final crowd : Tue May 10, 2022 6:33 pm  

Bizarrely there isn't a link to buy tickets for the Cup final through the ticketing webpage nor are the club promoting it with a banner on the main webpage. The only link is via the news item released earlier today saying tickets had been put on general sale.

7,300 is a decent number at this stage though, especially as it won't include RFL sales.

Re: Cup final crowd : Tue May 10, 2022 6:43 pm  

MadDogg wrote:

Bizarrely there isn't a link to buy tickets for the Cup final through the ticketing webpage nor are the club promoting it with a banner on the main webpage. The only link is via the news item released earlier today saying tickets had been put on general sale.

7,300 is a decent number at this stage though, especially as it won't include RFL sales.

Just seen the 7,300 quote from the club. Pretty happy with that after 3 days and us not having not long since set up the new ticketing system. There doesn’t look to be loads left on the ticket site as well, so whilst it might not be the old days of 30,000+ going down to London, it’ll be a healthy number when you factor in the RFL sales and what we sell from now on.

Re: Cup final crowd : Wed May 11, 2022 9:30 am  

Neutrals would certainly not be intrigued by the stadium. In fact I would have gone if Wembley, as my sister lives near there!
Think most neutrals would have preferred Wembley, though I may have a late change of heart as Hudds is my home town club and good to see them going well…….

Re: Cup final crowd : Wed May 11, 2022 9:34 am  

MadDogg wrote:

Bizarrely there isn't a link to buy tickets for the Cup final through the ticketing webpage nor are the club promoting it with a banner on the main webpage. The only link is via the news item released earlier today saying tickets had been put on general sale.

7,300 is a decent number at this stage though, especially as it won't include RFL sales.

Agree, the page is not that easy to find, and I was specifically looking for it.