Re: Greenwood to Leeds : Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:06 pm  

If touch wood, ISA or Farrell miss game time.

I’d be happy for Wells to have a return to the first team.

Or Smithies to move to Second row, he’s great but my minor criticism of his is he doesn’t make many yards. Could suit behind further out wide, considering we have so many “middles” available.

Re: Greenwood to Leeds : Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:33 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

He never looked like a Wigan player during his Saints days(we used to knock lumps off him), so it was a strange one when we signed him. It worked short term, when he had Wane coaching him but it’s all unravelled. His head knocks haven’t helped but it was the injuries after that, where he’d look like he’d ruptured his ACL or dislocated his shoulder, only to find out it was a slight bang that were the biggest concern.

Why did Gold Coast Titans sign him then, if he was doing nothing at Saints?

And I would not say that a couple of head injuries were hardly a "slight bang" in a physical game like rugby League.

Re: Greenwood to Leeds : Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:44 am  

warrior1872 wrote:

Because when he played against Hull KR in the reserves his attitude was awful,he just looked disinterested whereas you have Dom Manfredi who asked Adrian Lam if he could play in the same game rather than go straight into the first team that's the attitude you need to have rather than bloody sulking

He was not the only one!

I know the conditions were bad, but the whole team looked disinterested judging by the number of mistakes, players not talking to each other or consoling each other if they made a mistake.

Even Manfredi made mistakes and I saw nothing in the game to warrant his early return to the first team.

If the Reserves played the same way against a better team like St Helens, it is hardly surprising they were beaten so easily.

Re: Greenwood to Leeds : Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:55 am  

Ruddy Duck wrote:

Why did Gold Coast Titans sign him then, if he was doing nothing at Saints?

And I would not say that a couple of head injuries were hardly a "slight bang" in a physical game like rugby League.

You’ve misinterpreted both points. Firstly I said he didn’t look like a Wigan player, not that he didn’t look like any teams type of player. Wigan were famed for bringing through and bringing in gritty competitors with an aggressive edge and he was never that. Secondly I’ve not said his head injuries were ‘slight bangs’, I said that about the injuries that took him off the field after his comeback from the concussions. He went down like he’d been shot with a knee problem and a rib issue and looked like he was done for the season but both turned out to be very minor problems.

Re: Greenwood to Leeds : Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:10 am  

Interesting that Agar sees Greenwood as a prop rather than a back row. He certainly has the size and athleticism to make a good prop IMO. We might have missed a beat there but I don’t think his game time would have changed at all given who is in front of him at prop anyway.

Re: Greenwood to Leeds : Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:21 am  

When I saw they were moving him positions I assumed to Centre.

If he goes missing in the second row when the hard yards are required I’ve no idea what he is going to do as a prop.

I do though expect he will have a good start to his Leeds career until he secures a contract then performances will return to where they were for Wigan last year.

Hope I’m wrong but doubt it.

Re: Greenwood to Leeds : Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:46 am  

jonh wrote:

When I saw they were moving him positions I assumed to Centre.

If he goes missing in the second row when the hard yards are required I’ve no idea what he is going to do as a prop.

I do though expect he will have a good start to his Leeds career until he secures a contract then performances will return to where they were for Wigan last year.

Hope I’m wrong but doubt it.

Not entirely sure it's a good idea to put someone with a (recent) history of concussions at prop, but Agar knows better than me. Allegedly.

And i thought the same thing. The problem most have with him at second row is not doing enough, so why move him to prop? Putting second rows at prop is a Wigan thing and even we didnt do that with him.

Re: Greenwood to Leeds : Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:00 am  

Ruddy Duck wrote:

Why did Gold Coast Titans sign him then, if he was doing nothing at Saints?

And I would not say that a couple of head injuries were hardly a "slight bang" in a physical game like rugby League.

And why did Gold Coast Titans bin him off?
As for his poor game in the reserves, then had it been a one off then fair enough but was the same lackadaisical player v Leeds and Leigh in the warm up games, then again in the reserves game at Widnes.

Re: Greenwood to Leeds : Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:33 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

And why did Gold Coast Titans bin him off?
As for his poor game in the reserves, then had it been a one off then fair enough but was the same lackadaisical player v Leeds and Leigh in the warm up games, then again in the reserves game at Widnes.

Is it a case of him just not being happy at the club anymore? All you’ve stated are tell tale signs IMO

Re: Greenwood to Leeds : Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:18 am  

Who told you in the off season last year Greenwood would be out of the door?