[DaveO]

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:45 am  

stillinthepast wrote:

On the BBC R/L page Shaun Wane is quoted as saying that Wigan are not in the same League as Salford when it comes to trying to get the Marquee player idea through, all he(Wane) is interested in is bringing his own players through the ranks.

Never thought I'd see the day a Wigan coach was against something that would allow the club to sign (or retain) a top class player. This strikes me as another ill thought out press comment from Wane because he clearly hasn't realised he could use this rule to try and retain a player he had brought through such as a Burgess or a Sam T.

And if bringing his own players through the ranks is what he is interested in why on earth do we have 12 first team regulars he didn't bring through and what does that comment say to them?

Anyone know how IL voted on this? I am pretty sure last time he was in favour. Has he changed his mind?

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:59 am  

stillinthepast wrote:

On the BBC R/L page Shaun Wane is quoted as saying that Wigan are not in the same League as Salford when it comes to trying to get the Marquee player idea through, all he(Wane) is interested in is bringing his own players through the ranks.

Another sad bit of news from Aus is that Lee Mossop has been ruled out for the season due to his latest shoulder injury.

Another bit of news on the BBC page is that Catalan have signed Willie Tonga on a two year deal, a 30 year old who used to be a very good centre.

Also Cats are interested in Todd Carney but expect competition from other S/L clubs, it is said that Hull, Wire and Salford have ruled themselves out of going for Carney.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:01 am  

stillinthepast wrote:

Another bit of news on the BBC page is that Catalan have signed Willie Tonga on a two year deal, a 30 year old who used to be a very good centre.

Also Cats are interested in Todd Carney but expect competition from other S/L clubs, it is said that Hull, Wire and Salford have ruled themselves out of going for Carney.

Great signing for Catalan in Tonga, still a very good centre.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:07 am  

DaveO wrote:

Never thought I'd see the day a Wigan coach was against something that would allow the club to sign (or retain) a top class player. This strikes me as another ill thought out press comment from Wane because he clearly hasn't realised he could use this rule to try and retain a player he had brought through such as a Burgess or a Sam T.

And if bringing his own players through the ranks is what he is interested in why on earth do we have 12 first team regulars he didn't bring through and what does that comment say to them?

Anyone know how IL voted on this? I am pretty sure last time he was in favour. Has he changed his mind?

If you read it Wane does not state he is against the Marquee Player rule simply that the Wigan situation and the Salford situation are poles apart in relation to where they are developmentally. We are reliant on youth where they need to bring players in.

Still why let the facts get in the way of having yet another negative post about the club

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:09 am  

Levrier wrote:

Sorry to have started this. I was more interested in who the target might be.

Wasn't having a go at any particular poster, but the thread seemed to have turned into a game of one-upmanship over the Salary Cap rather than a discussion of rumours and signings

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:45 am  

[quote="DaveO"]Never thought I'd see the day a Wigan coach was against something that would allow the club to sign (or retain) a top class player. This strikes me as another ill thought out press comment from Wane because he clearly hasn't realised he could use this rule to try and retain a player he had brought through such as a Burgess or a Sam T. And if bringing his own players through the ranks is what he is interested in why on earth do we have 12 first team regulars he didn't bring through and what does that comment say to them? http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/28214620 personally i dont see anything wrong with what wane is saying

[quote="DaveO"]Never thought I'd see the day a Wigan coach was against something that would allow the club to sign (or retain) a top class player. This strikes me as another ill thought out press comment from Wane because he clearly hasn't realised he could use this rule to try and retain a player he had brought through such as a Burgess or a Sam T. And if bringing his own players through the ranks is what he is interested in why on earth do we have 12 first team regulars he didn't bring through and what does that comment say to them? http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/28214620 personally i dont see anything wrong with what wane is saying

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:11 pm  

DaveO wrote:

Never thought I'd see the day a Wigan coach was against something that would allow the club to sign (or retain) a top class player. This strikes me as another ill thought out press comment from Wane because he clearly hasn't realised he could use this rule to try and retain a player he had brought through such as a Burgess or a Sam T.

And if bringing his own players through the ranks is what he is interested in why on earth do we have 12 first team regulars he didn't bring through and what does that comment say to them?

Anyone know how IL voted on this? I am pretty sure last time he was in favour. Has he changed his mind?

You're really fixated on these "12 players" aren't you. How many of those 12 were signed at age 21 or under? 5, Bateman, Taylor, Gelling, Dudson and Sarginson. We may not have developed them in the sense that they came through our academy but they were far from established top flight players when we brought them in. Signings like Flower, Smith, Pettybourne and Clubb have added quality and experience to the team and signings like Green and Bowen have basically been stop gap players while the likes of Williams, Powell and Hampshire develop. All your arguments are all-or-nothing, we haven't developed every player in our 30 odd man squad so it's wrong of Wane to not want a marquee signing policy, the details of which we know very little about.

[DaveO]

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:43 pm  

jonh wrote:

If you read it Wane does not state he is against the Marquee Player rule simply that the Wigan situation and the Salford situation are poles apart in relation to where they are developmentally. We are reliant on youth where they need to bring players in.

The "no interest" in "marquee player" are in quotes (from a radio interview) so unless the BBC are making it up, he has no interest in the idea.

EDIT: His exact words were "I am not really bothered about a marquee player". It on the latest pre match interview on Wigan TV.

We are also pretty reliant on players brought in with 12 who regularly feature in the 1st 17 when fit.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:46 pm  

So, any RUMOURS?

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:52 pm  

Active rumors as far as I see -

Travis Burns between us and Saints.

Taylor out to Hull.

Burgess to NRL

Dave O may give the club some credit.

They get increasingly less likely from former to latter.