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: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:41 pm  
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I know that Shaun Wane "announced" it on GMR, but whether that was official or not, I have no idea.


I do actually remember that now, but it has still not been officially announced. I doubt he would of said it though if it was not for definate.

I would love for MaGuire to be able to sign 2 players.
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: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:49 pm  
Perhaps Bailey was offered a new contract without the consent of McGuire and now that McGuire's aware of the offer he's instructed Lenegan to withdraw it.
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: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:54 pm  
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Perhaps Bailey was offered a new contract without the consent of McGuire and now that McGuire's aware of the offer he's instructed Lenegan to withdraw it.


I would look forward to the anti IL meltdown that would occur if that indeed was the case :lol: :lol:
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: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:36 pm  
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Perhaps Bailey was offered a new contract without the consent of McGuire and now that McGuire's aware of the offer he's instructed Lenegan to withdraw it.


Maybe he doesn't look like recovering well from that injury?

Could we go a season with Harrison Hansen, Joel Tomkins, Lee Mossop and Liam Farrell?
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: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:38 pm  
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Maybe he doesn't look like recovering well from that injury?

Could we go a season with Harrison Hansen, Joel Tomkins, Lee Mossop and Liam Farrell?


If we brought someone in then yes.
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: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:50 pm  
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Maybe he doesn't look like recovering well from that injury?

Could we go a season with Harrison Hansen, Joel Tomkins, Lee Mossop and Liam Farrell?


Good point I'd forgotten about his injury, I suppose it could be the case I'm guessing any contract would be dependent upon recovering from injury.

Personally I think we could go next year with what we have, it'll mean more game time and experience for those young lads who get to play no doubt benefiting us in the long term
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: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:08 pm  
We also have Tuson, already had first team experience although it might be brief. Maybe if MM comes in he might want to put Coley or Presscott in the 2nd row, and bring in a another prop. Or just replace Bailey with another 2nd rower??
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Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:14 pm  
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We also have Tuson, already had first team experience although it might be brief. Maybe if MM comes in he might want to put Coley or Presscott in the 2nd row, and bring in a another prop. Or just replace Bailey with another 2nd rower??


I would not play either of them in the SR but I would play Fielden there. Coley and Prescott have been the main go forward at times. I would bring in someone who can play SR and prop and even 13 if he is needed, shame we missed out on burgess :lol:
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: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:26 pm  
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I would not play either of them in the SR but I would play Fielden there. Coley and Prescott have been the main go forward at times. I would bring in someone who can play SR and prop and even 13 if he is needed, shame we missed out on burgess :lol:


Interestingly:

He makes as many metres as Coley, busts a lot more tackles, puts in more defensively, but makes less offloads.

Compared to Prescott, he makes a lot more metres, busts a lot more tackles, puts in more than 1.6 times the tackles, and offloads just a little less

Compared to Feka, he makes similar metres, busts less tackles (though still a lot more than coley or prescott), makes a lot less offloads, and puts in about 1.7 times the number of tackles

It's funny how people's perception is though isn't it? ;)

I think the biggest areas of improvement for Stu are in trying to offload a bit more, and cutting down on the penalties due to sloppy play etc. I think he gets such a hard time on his go forward because it's felt it's a lot worse than he should be deliver (but is still very favourable with our other props)
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: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:33 pm  
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Interestingly:

He makes as many metres as Coley, busts a lot more tackles, puts in more defensively, but makes less offloads.

Compared to Prescott, he makes a lot more metres, busts a lot more tackles, puts in more than 1.6 times the tackles, and offloads just a little less

Compared to Feka, he makes similar metres, busts less tackles (though still a lot more than coley or prescott), makes a lot less offloads, and puts in about 1.7 times the number of tackles

It's funny how people's perception is though isn't it? ;)

I think the biggest areas of improvement for Stu are in trying to offload a bit more, and cutting down on the penalties due to sloppy play etc. I think he gets such a hard time on his go forward because it's felt it's a lot worse than he should be deliver (but is still very favourable with our other props)


Without wanting to sound like a cynic, i take the published Stats with a pinch of salt.
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