: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:41 pm  

[Gareth] wrote:

and bring in a player who turned his back on Wigan RL for the £££'s on offer form Union?

So we should hold a grunge against a 19yr old lad for wanting more money?

Someone who would benefit our club? Someone who's probably learnt a few lessons on the way?

Sorry, I will not be holding a long term grunge over that.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:43 pm  

Ancient & Loyal wrote:

I've just looked on Wikipedia (although not always totally accurate) at the prohibited substance Benzoylecgonine. It says that it is the primary metabolite of cocaine. However it is used as the main pharmaceutical ingredient of a prescription drug, Esterom which is a solution for the relief of muscle pain.

Maybe I'm clutching at straws here, but is it possible that he's slipped up and taken the substance accidentally via a pain relief tablet?

Deffo clutching at straws there mate. I got told of a list of 4 or 5 well known individuals who move in the same social circle as did the person recounting the tale to me and it wasn't Esterom that I was told these individuals were pushing up their noses.

I've been puzzled for a couple of years now why it hasn't come to light (officially) sooner. Some big names bricking it now I bet

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:43 pm  

Mistaken identity, It was Lee Briers. Wasn't it lads?

Tossers.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:44 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

So we should hold a grunge against a 19yr old lad for wanting more money?

Someone who would benefit our club? Someone who's probably learnt a few lessons on the way?

Sorry, I will not be holding a long term grunge over that.

so youd rather have 3 very young inexperienced players (one of which treated the club like crap in his final few weeks/months) in 3 pivotal positions?

you couldnt make it up!

why dont we sign Ashton as well as an ageing experienced FB to tutor him ala Long and Myler?

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:45 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

So we should hold a grunge against a 19yr old lad for wanting more money?

Someone who would benefit our club? Someone who's probably learnt a few lessons on the way?

Sorry, I will not be holding a long term grunge over that.

Ashton has learned nothing since leaving. That's a fact.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:46 pm  

[Gareth] wrote:

so youd rather have 3 very young inexperienced players (one of which treated the club like crap in his final few weeks/months) in 3 pivotal positions?

you couldnt make it up!

why dont we sign Ashton as well as an ageing experienced FB to tutor him ala Long and Myler?

Or we could listen to you bring ideas and put Richards in the centre and Hansen at loose!

Please don't be mocking other posts again after you showed how poor judgement you really have!

You were better when you just nodded and smiled when Jonh posted something.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:46 pm  

piemandan wrote:

Ashton has learned nothing since leaving. That's a fact.

If its a fact please back it up. How laughable.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:47 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Or we could listen to you bring ideas and put Richards in the centre and Hansen at loose!

Please don't be mocking other posts again after you showed how poor judgement you really have!

You were better when you just nodded and smiled when Jonh posted something.

hansen to loose, richards to centre. some people just dont know when they are being wound up

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:47 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Just an average player. If he's not looking to be great then get rid when you can, especially in such a key position.

Bring back a young Chris Ashton. He was awesome in attack and his defense will improve as he gets older.

I'm not a fan off Phelps either, but in my opinion you have Phelps who is (average) at best, and also Richards who can cover that position. I feel Richards should be Wigans fullback. he has all the attributes to be great there.

But I would think Wigan now need a class second row like Hock. He was a game changer/winner for Wigan. Definately needs replacing. Hopefully not with an average Aussie on doubt his money.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:47 pm  

if all players were tested you would be lucky to have a super league,drugs and drink abuse is rife.