Re: rl : Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:49 pm  

inside_man wrote:

You reckon? I'd have thought Eastmond and Wheeler, aren't they the reason they wouldnt over long the 2 year deal he wanted?

Wheeler has stood out for me this season, looked a fine young player and he's been playing out of position [i think?].

I think saints will go with rotating those two next year.

Wheeler is as you say playing out of position, he is a natural 6, but so was Gidley until a young lad called Kimmorley turned up so he could be a long term centre. We also still have Smith under contract so next year him and eastmond could compete for No7 jersey. With Roby and Wilkin also able to do a job at 7 if needed, we have enough cover.

: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:03 pm  

cadoo wrote:

But the question has to be asked lets say we get Matt Orford - where does he fit into the squad?

Riddell is here for three years and Leuluai has had an extension. Michael McIlorum and Sam Tomkins you would hope wont be going anywhere so someone will have to be dropped every week. One of either Tomkins, Leuluai, McIlorum or Riddell because you wouldn't sign a player to then immediantly drop him would you?

One of those players will have to leave and I get the awful feeling it will be McIlorum.

Easy to say in hindsight but the signing of Riddell was a disaster. Not because he hasn't hit top form yet but because we already had a potentially lethal hooker partnership is Leuluai and McIlorum.

For Noble not to have realised Leuluai is most suited at hooker in 2 years when Wayne Bennett spotted it in a matter of weeks has been catastrophic to our chances of having a balanced squad.

As you say, we have Riddell, Leuluai, Tomkins and McIlorum already at the club, and we need a 6/7 to come in still. If Riddell's form does not improve, and he is still being consistently outplayed by McIlorum, then I firmly believe he is the one who has to be dropped. We couldn't justify letting McIlorum go if he is out playing an experienced Aussie. That said, I expect Riddell to improve as he settles and as the weather picks up, so decisions will need to be made.

The other area of recruitment where I think the club messed up massively last season was keeping on Phelps and then signing Roberts. It had to be one or the other. And as we've got Robert's services long term, I feel we'll have to let Phelps go at the end of the season regardless of how good he has been because we cannot afford to have two quota spots taken up when most likely they won't both be involved in first team rugby next season.

: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:43 pm  

http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhqnews ... 50759.html Brent kite and Matty Orford....Yes Please!!!!!!

http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhqnews ... 50759.html Brent kite and Matty Orford....Yes Please!!!!!!

: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:47 pm  

Tricky Dicky wrote:

http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhqnews/fears-that-kite-may-fly-sea-eagles-coop-to-england/2009/05/31/1243708350759.html

Brent kite and Matty Orford....Yes Please!!!!!!

Roberts
Ainscough
Gleeson
Carmont
Richards
STomkins
Orford
Fielden
Tommy
Kite
Hock
JTomkins
O'Loughlin

Feka
Riddell/MM
Hansen/Mossop
Eamon/PP

That side looks LOADS better.

: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:17 pm  

Brent Kite

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:35 am  

When i've watched Brent Kite i just get the feeling he'd get battered over here. I reckon people would target him and with him having a very upright running style i believe he'd take his fair share of hammerings.

I'd rather have somebody like Luke Bailey who is far more compact.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:39 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

When i've watched Brent Kite i just get the feeling he'd get battered over here. I reckon people would target him and with him having a very upright running style i believe he'd take his fair share of hammerings.

I'd rather have somebody like Luke Bailey who is far more compact.

I thought the same.

Personally, I think Nathan Cayless would do well.

Also, I watched Fui Fui Moi Moi at the weekend. Fantastic player but I think with Feka in the squad it would have to be one or the other.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:50 am  

Alex BP' wrote:

I thought the same.

Personally, I think Nathan Cayless would do well.

Also, I watched Fui Fui Moi Moi at the weekend. Fantastic player but I think with Feka in the squad it would have to be one or the other.

I think we could carry both Feka and Moi Moi rotating them throughout the game so the opposition does not get a break from the devastating runners, defence may be an issue but i think Moi Moi is more solid in this department than Feka who does have a weakness with mobility.

Cayless would go very well i agree, no nonsense forward great leader.

Regards Kite i cannot agree. If he does not get smashed about in the NRL by far more defence orientated and technically superior teams then i cannot see it over here. He does run upright but he is a very big unit and much in the way Perto does when he takes a tackle he gets his upper body forward over the impact on the opponents shoulder which means he generally finishes up on his front and winning the collision.

I had the same fears when we were linked with Petro and how wrong was, i never really appreciated just how players like them use there body to dominate the impact. They are technically so superior to us I do not think he would have any problem making the yards and generating the quick PTB's that we sometimes lack.

rl : Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:22 am  

We know Saints are cashed up.
They've never had any financial difficulties, ever, we all know that!
They only have to circumvent or cheat the salary cap of £1.65m
That they have done more successfully than another club in the SL era.
Hence they have won more in the SL era.
Dobson to Stains. BTW why didn't Pryce go to Union some months ago when the offer for him came in? Still reckon Stains will offload.
Long term Stains will go for Wheeler at 6, Dobson 7, Eastmond 1.
An awful lot less expensive than Pryce, Long & Wellens I'll bet!

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:28 am  

I know Glenn Hall has been mentioned on here but according to the BBC ticker he has signed for Bradford (thank god)