I don't think we've truly put the cleaners through any team all season due to the lack of cohesiveness in attack and the fact we've effectively played with one half-back all year.



I honestly think the most balanced we've looked, other than Leigh away (with Field at 6 and French at 1) is with Hampshire at 6 in the games against Leeds and KR away. Although in the latter a sloppy middle to the second half almost cost us that one.



Our only way of winning seems to be grinding out results with attritional performances and brutal defence capitalising on mistakes other teams make off the back of it.



If our defence is slightly off and we don't concentrate for the full 80 you get what you get tonight. It's walking a tightrope every week and it has to change.



We haven't scored enough team tries this season which come through fluent rugby and we are heavily reliant on individuals.



We are supposed to be a top side with an excellent squad but it's incredibly stressful and not very enjoyable watching Wigan this season and it has really come to the fore since the international break.



A tough call is going to have to be made but Hampshire needs to be in the team for me OR we go with Field at 6 once Isa comes back to shore up that right edge and protect Field. Our best performances this season have been with French at 1.

Cust and Mago will go down as two of our worst overseas signings and we’ve had plenty failures. I was hopeful the good weather would see us click, it’s all that seemed to be talked about in the early part of the season but we are nothing in the grand scheme of things when it comes to making an impact in October when it’s wet.

Probably not the time to call it now, he deserves till the end of the season, but I have huge doubts about Matty Peet.

I haven't even got my judgy-pants out, and washed and pressed them yet!

I’m more convinced than ever that French and Field do not work in their current roles.



We desperately need a 6.



Their pace is terrifying to defences but our lack of a proper 6 is killing our attack.



Standard Wigan performance at Wakey though. Lacked enthusiasm and desire.



1 eye on the semi which really isn’t good enough.



Nsemba Miski and King leave the field with some credit, not many others do.

You really felt we were 'back' last season. It was easy going to games on the whole and enjoyable. We were very easy on the eye and won the Challenge Cup but fell short in the play offs. You felt that was a good starting block and one to build on ready for this season with better centres, our young pack a year older etc. but we've regressed this season. It's quite clear. There may be many reasons for this but the most obvious one to me seems to be Lee Briers moving to the NRL and we just haven't really put it together all year thus far.



It needs figuring out and quickly. There's no guarantee we will make the play-offs based on this inconsistency and how tight the league is currently from 2nd down to say 7th or 8th.

In his first season Cust was favourite for mos and you all lapped it up (check the posts when he first signed) those of us that actually know rugby league laughed our heads off.

Not yet. Not even close for me. He had too much to fix too soon. Next season is his team. We aren't Warrington or Leeds who chop coaches and send their sides into freefall. Let him get his forwards in and see where we go from there.

So is it the case that MP figures he has a few weeks to see if Field 1 and French 6 gel better, or should we expect changes sooner? We need a settled spine at the business end of the season.

Glad iv'e got WW69 on ignore. He will be knocking about when Cbeebies goes off tomorrow.

Lee Briers is a huge miss. He is doing very well down under by all reports. I hope Wane brings him into the England setup. I think our coaching staff could use that fresh set of eyes again from outside the club. What are Peet, Lockers and Leuluai going to bring new to the club… as much as we all love them! Briers transformed our attack last season.



Biggest test of Peet these next few weeks. A few bad results and we are out the cup and languishing outside the play offs…

Not sure it's anything to do with the semi final. Felt like a standard Wakey away performance.



Not sure if we change our preparations because of the "facilities" but for some reason we seem to really struggle there in pretty much every aspect of the game.

For me in the basis of tonight Thornley has dropped further down the pecking order.



We should be blooding Eckersley if we are missing our starting centres.



Thornley really was horrible tonight.

From what ive seen French[i[u at stand off is not working[/u[/i French was more of a threat on the wing given space. Peet has a dilemma what to do about this.Look back to last season with French on the wing tries galore .Miski has given MP a headache playing as he is where to play Field and French to me better on the wing its a situation where we have too many players plying for positions Field not good enough for stand off neither is French Miski playing well so not to be dropped ??

Yep sorry. For some reason I thought the semi was next week.



It has 0 consequence on the performance today given it’s over 2 weeks away, which makes the performance even worse!

It's a shame as from his form in the reserves it looked like Thornley would be a great back up option but he's let Peet down badly in his last couple of games.

We have a stand off on our books why do we not play him Rocky?

job for the boys

Peet needs to mix them up. Bevan to start at 6 then 2nd half Jai goes there with French at 1. See if that can produce the results we need. It would give the opposition something to face they wouldn't expect.



Listening to Milko tonight the difference between winning and losing was discipline, or the lack of it. Hitting the kicker with seconds to go on the clock sounded dreadful and ultimately lost us the game.



Looks like we could be missing Havard for the next couple of weeks too.

As fellow Saints fan I agree about him blokes a idiot

Maybe French on the wing and Miski in the centres is not out of the question?

That was hard to watch. Attack is not a bit fluent. Wakefield through shape at us all night and we couldn’t respond in the same vein. Our line speed was woefully slow for most of the game. Thornley and Smith had a mare and whoever put in the late hit with a minute to go owes his team mates a big apology. I hate going to Wakefield - the facilities for away fans (like Headingley) are abysmal. Only a win there can sweeten the pill but on tonight’s performance we look like we couldn’t be bothered.

He isn't a Saints fan mate. He's a Union troll who has latched on to Saints as he feels it gives him free reign to troll others. The guy has never seen the inside of the TWS. Just ignore him.

As a Wakefield fan I'm surprised (or not considering you lost) at some of the comments. I thought we hung in and were resilient and with a slice of luck (a late hit and a knock on) came away with the win. I'm surprised about the effort comments. I thought your line speed was good (if legal) and you won the territory battle throughout (I'm sure the stats will show this). Your middles made considerably more yardage. I thought your spine lacked something - fluidity or coherence call it what you want. Harry Smith clearly isn't the best goal kicker. I thought you did enough to win that game in a lot of circumstances. I've seen some comments on discipline but apart from the equalising penalty, im sure you msut have been on the right side of the penalty count and had the most set restarts. I thought Griffiths was quite lenient with the Wigan ruck at times and how messy and slow it was. You should have won with the time you had in our twenty but didn't have the coherence in the spine/attack to break us down as much as you should have imo. Not sure what it is about Wigan this year but definitely lacking something to win the grand final this year. We've turned a corner in the last four weeks so I get why judging on the previous 15 you'd have thought it would be easy. Since Fifita has returned there's been some drastic change in the attitude and application.

I would agree with the majority of your comments on us particularly our poor attacking prowess.

Obviously a loss is always hard to take but I hope that your turn in form continues and that you can move off the relegation spot.