Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:20 pm  

His form has been iffy this year but we're still losing our best centre IMO when Goulding goes.

Sarginson is a fullback/wing and Gelling a second rower IMO. That leaves us with Thornley who is inconsistent and a couple of back up options who are second rowers (Hughes/Tomkins).

I'd use the rest of this regular season to give all three of Charnley, Manfredi and Burgess a crack at centre to see if any of those could do a job.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:46 pm  

Can't say am too bothered about Gouldinghe had 2 seasons where he played very well but other than that he is fairly average and shows no signs of getting back to a top level of performance.

Taylor would be a loss, he is a quality young Prop who is only going to get better.

I get the feeling we are going to recruit very well for next year. I haven't heard anything but I just get the feeling after what was said after the Roosters match a plan was formed and blue print for our future will be followed.

I do think we need a centre and also a Prop if Taylor is confirmed as leaving as strongly rumoured.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:52 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

His form has been iffy this year but we're still losing our best centre IMO when Goulding goes.

Sarginson is a fullback/wing and Gelling a second rower IMO. That leaves us with Thornley who is inconsistent and a couple of back up options who are second rowers (Hughes/Tomkins).

I'd use the rest of this regular season to give all three of Charnley, Manfredi and Burgess a crack at centre to see if any of those could do a job.

I don't think Wane sees Gelling as a SR and now we have Joel back he'd have limited opportunities there anyway. I also think Sarginson is primarily a fullback, and the issue we have if we go in to next season with Thornley and Gelling as our first choice centres is they both favour the left centre position, and so does Sarginson when he plays there, so we'd be going in to 2015 without a right centre. Gelling's simple catch and pass that flew about 10 yards forward in to touch on Friday highlighted just how unnatural he is on the right.

[DaveO]

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:58 pm  

WARRIORCRAIG wrote:

I don't think Wane sees Gelling as a SR and now we have Joel back he'd have limited opportunities there anyway. I also think Sarginson is primarily a fullback, and the issue we have if we go in to next season with Thornley and Gelling as our first choice centres is they both favour the left centre position, and so does Sarginson when he plays there, so we'd be going in to 2015 without a right centre. Gelling's simple catch and pass that flew about 10 yards forward in to touch on Friday highlighted just how unnatural he is on the right.

All true. We also need an experienced centre, preferably on the right for the reasons you state but we also need someone just more experienced than any of 'em.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:28 am  

No doubt you will have six nineteen year old centres waiting in the wings ready to take over

Re: Todd Carney - replacement for Blake?? : Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:43 am  

vectra is right - Carney is infinitely more talented than Tim Smith. Even if I could sign him I'm not sure I would though, as the risk of having to ditch him modway through a season is fairly high. He's also missed quite a few games with injury this year.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:18 am  

fun time frankie wrote:

No doubt you will have six nineteen year old centres waiting in the wings ready to take over

I bet your right!

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:19 am  

DaveO wrote:

All true. We also need an experienced centre, preferably on the right for the reasons you state but we also need someone just more experienced than any of 'em.

Doesn't look like that's the plan according to Rads on the statement confirming Daz's exit (official site):

"The timing also works for us in that we have Dan Sarginson who is developing into a top class centre, plus Iain Thornley and Anthony Gelling vying for the other spot, whilst we also have young players such as Oliver Gildart ready to break into the First Team, all of which bodes well for 2015 and beyond."

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:19 am  

I think it's fairly obvious we haven't kept him because we have better centres at the club. Would be very surprised if we signed a fourth first team centre unless someone brilliant became available

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:32 am  

Grimmy wrote:

I think it's fairly obvious we haven't kept him because we have better centres at the club. Would be very surprised if we signed a fourth first team centre unless someone brilliant became available

I think its fairly obvious you are wrong, Wigan tried to keep him but couldnt. He is easily the best centre at the club and has only not been retained because he has been offered much more elsewhere. Unless we sign someone we are very weak at centre next season.