Re: Rumours and signings 2010 : Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:11 pm  

thepriestman85 wrote:

Just watching the Bulls game and I was wondering what people thought of Langley as a possible replacement for Coley?

He's been in a poor Bradford side for a while but I still think he's got potential 2 be a good player

For Coley i'd probably say no because he's not an out and out prop and thats what we need if we're to replace Coley, Fielden or Feka.

As a replacment for somebody like Phil Bailey i'd be very interested. He can play second row, loose forward and cover at prop if needs be and is looking back to somewhere near his best. He's big, strong, hardoworking and reasonably skillfull.

If he were available at the end of the season then i'd be interested but I doubt he will be and we have Hock to come back mid season so it's probably a no go.

Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:55 am  

I think the time has come for Langley to move forwards in the pack 2 prop.

He makes good yards when he takes the ball in and let's not forget Coley wasn't an out an out prop during his Salford days either. Langley would make an excellent prop for us in 2011 IMO

Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:58 am  

thepriestman85 wrote:

I think the time has come for Langley to move forwards in the pack 2 prop.

He makes good yards when he takes the ball in and let's not forget Coley wasn't an out an out prop during his Salford days either. Langley would make an excellent prop for us in 2011 IMO

I will be stunned if Hock is not the long term replacement for Coley.

Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:16 am  

No way can Hock be considered as a replacement prop imo. He simply doesn't put the defensive shift in.

He'll come back and play as an attacking second rower from the bench. If his ban from the game has led to a new found appetite for hard graft then maybe he can be considered for a move upto prop in the future.

Even at 20 Lee Mossop is close to the move upto prop then Hock is. He already proving he can do the dirty work and has a good enough engine to put good stints in.

Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:58 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

No way can Hock be considered as a replacement prop imo. He simply doesn't put the defensive shift in.

He'll come back and play as an attacking second rower from the bench. If his ban from the game has led to a new found appetite for hard graft then maybe he can be considered for a move upto prop in the future.

Even at 20 Lee Mossop is close to the move upto prop then Hock is. He already proving he can do the dirty work and has a good enough engine to put good stints in.

I agree to a certain extent regards his work rate in defence, but i think it is simply because he was defending in the wider channels, he did not go looking for the work. I think when he had a spell at 13 and was forced to play down the middle we saw some of his best performances regards his defence and his carry.

Playing in the middle will force him to put the shift in again in my opinion.

Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:30 am  

Mossop and Ben Davies are the long term replacement props.

Hock will be a replacement back rower along with Farrell.

Oh what a wealth of tallent we have.

Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:43 am  

jonh wrote:

I agree to a certain extent regards his work rate in defence, but i think it is simply because he was defending in the wider channels, he did not go looking for the work. I think when he had a spell at 13 and was forced to play down the middle we saw some of his best performances regards his defence and his carry.

Playing in the middle will force him to put the shift in again in my opinion.

I would go along with this. Lets not forget he will be two years older too, and probably bigger, and slightly less mobile..

Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:58 am  

Wigan Peer wrote:

I would go along with this. Lets not forget he will be two years older too, and probably bigger, and slightly less mobile..

As i understand it he has already added some significant bulk to his frame in the gym.

Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:17 pm  

jonh wrote:

I agree to a certain extent regards his work rate in defence, but i think it is simply because he was defending in the wider channels, he did not go looking for the work. I think when he had a spell at 13 and was forced to play down the middle we saw some of his best performances regards his defence and his carry.

Playing in the middle will force him to put the shift in again in my opinion.

Hopefully he'll come back with a new outlook on the game but he's going to have to prove himself in his usual position first imo. It's all well and good hoping he'd be forced into a defensive shift but he's going to need match fitness first.

I suppose it all depends on where we have room in the team but i'd be suprised if he doesn't come back as a backrower(at least for the rest of that 2011 season).

Either way i'm just looking forward to having him back. He's been an idiot but if he does the time and proves he's cleaned his act up he deserves his 2nd chance.

Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:20 pm  

jonh wrote:

As i understand it he has already added some significant bulk to his frame in the gym.

I'm guessing laying off certain 'treats' will help him put weight?

Mike Greg once said if we put 2 stone on him he'd kill somebody but he never really filled out. He still was an amazing physical talent though.