Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:37 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

The Squad
We have a superb team when you sit back and look at who’s in. Our starting 13 at full strength is superb

1. French
2. Marshall
3. Gildart
4. Bibby
5. Field
6. Smith
7. Hastings
8. Singleton
9. Powell
10. Havard
11. Farrell
12. KPP
13. Bateman

On paper that is a superb side. One that should achieve far more than it has been doing. Granted we’ve had injuries but we still should be getting more and that falls down to one person - Adrian Lam.

Next season we’ll have two powerful props, a promising winger and a little less exciting centre. The squad is there to be optimistic.

Adrian Lam
Thankfully going. If he was staying I’d be nowhere near as confident that the future is bright. Literally has no idea what he’s doing, no attack, baffling selections and his post match comments are becoming a comedy (see his latest after today’s game).

A new coach who is competent and actually has a clue what he’s doing will go a long way. Saints/Catalans despite being far and away the best teams in Super League aren’t that good. We’re not far away, although it seems it.

Finances and Stadium
There is a significant shortfall but that’s not debt against the club as it’s been covered. The stadium rent is going up - no arguments from me - but it’s still cheaper and more sustainable that our own ground in the current climate .

I know you don’t agree and that’s fine but I do believe the future is bright and I do believe we’re not too far away. We just need to sign players where needed (done) and get rid of Adrian Lam (shortly to be done) and we’re halfway there.

Next season we won’t have Hastings or Gildart.

We have signed 3 unproven and relatively inexperienced Aussies and a centre for the third time with no heart.

A 9 with no discernible skills other than to tackle.
We haven’t got a clue if Field is good, bad or indifferent before you even suggest that he is a winger.
Not sure what Bateman is but he isn’t a 13.
At the moment Smilh looks nothing like a starting 6 for a Championship side let alone a SL player.

I admire your confidence but next year on paper will be worse than 2021 unless we recruit an exceptionally good coach. Hope I’m wrong.

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:51 pm  

There’s talent to work with for sure but Matty Peet alongside Wane (in whatever role he has) are going to have to have a really big pre season on the training field to get us back to looking the well organised team we used to. It’s a rabble with the ball at the moment.

I’m not fussed about the outside backs position if Hardaker stays. I think you can work with a backline line including French, Hardaker, Marshall, Bibby etc and Miski does look a good fit for that style of rugby we used to play under Wane (which I presume will come back) but the halfback signing, alongside how Mago and Ellis settle in will be absolutely key. We’re desperate for not only a new coach to sort this mess out but alongside that, any new man needs better players around the middle and he’ll need a good replacement for Hastings. I thought we saw today that there’s some real talent in the likes of Havard and KPP but they need that extra support as well and they need to be pushed to earn their spots.

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:58 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

There’s talent to work with for sure but Matty Peet alongside Wane (in whatever role he has) are going to have to have a really big pre season on the training field to get us back to looking the well organised team we used to. It’s a rabble with the ball at the moment.

I’m not fussed about the outside backs position if Hardaker stays. I think you can work with a backline line including French, Hardaker, Marshall, Bibby etc and Miski does look a good fit for that style of rugby we used to play under Wane (which I presume will come back) but the halfback signing, alongside how Mago and Ellis settle in will be absolutely key. We’re desperate for not only a new coach to sort this mess out but alongside that, any new man needs better players around the middle and he’ll need a good replacement for Hastings. I thought we saw today that there’s some real talent in the likes of Havard and KPP but they need that extra support as well and they need to be pushed to earn their spots.

That's the way I'm seeing it too.

FWIW, I thought when Bullock had his 8 mins we looked a better side. He was making ground and we got into a wrestle for the match. Now I'm going on one of those 'if' rants here, but IF Ellis and Mago can provide that go forward on a regular basis & IF that helps Singleton do this thing and takes pressure off Byrne and Havard - we'll see loads of improvement.

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:40 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

There’s talent to work with for sure but Matty Peet alongside Wane (in whatever role he has) are going to have to have a really big pre season on the training field to get us back to looking the well organised team we used to. It’s a rabble with the ball at the moment.

I’m not fussed about the outside backs position if Hardaker stays. I think you can work with a backline line including French, Hardaker, Marshall, Bibby etc and Miski does look a good fit for that style of rugby we used to play under Wane (which I presume will come back) but the halfback signing, alongside how Mago and Ellis settle in will be absolutely key. We’re desperate for not only a new coach to sort this mess out but alongside that, any new man needs better players around the middle and he’ll need a good replacement for Hastings. I thought we saw today that there’s some real talent in the likes of Havard and KPP but they need that extra support as well and they need to be pushed to earn their spots.

Mago and Ellis are out and out punts. We needed more certainty (if that’s possible) but rank bad squad management by IL/KR in the last few seasons has led to the acquisitions of uncertainty yet again.

The more I I think about it the more I don’t want a Peet/Wane partnership. 2016 and 2017 nearly finished me off as a fan. The quality of play and the siege mentality of the club to its own supporters for me was pretty poor.
We need much much more than “tough” play and the wrestling pit. Not sure if Peet/Wane can provide that.

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:49 pm  

Madge on the brink ? https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 082bc765af

Madge on the brink ? https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 082bc765af

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:55 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

They literally told you.

Not that it matters to you, because players are still taking the knee so you're done with the club.

Can't beleive they are still doing it, I won't give the club another penny until they stop.

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:03 pm  

post wrote:

Can't beleive they are still doing it, I won't give the club another penny until they stop.

Well thank you for supporting the club, anti racism, and a progressive society

Speak soon

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:41 am  

post wrote:

Can't beleive they are still doing it, I won't give the club another penny until they stop.

Serious question - If you're anti- the anti-racism gesture/message, does that make you a racist?

I would say "Yes", and that you're not the type of fan who will be missed.

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:57 am  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

Next season we won’t have Hastings or Gildart.

We have signed 3 unproven and relatively inexperienced Aussies and a centre for the third time with no heart.

A 9 with no discernible skills other than to tackle.
We haven’t got a clue if Field is good, bad or indifferent before you even suggest that he is a winger.
Not sure what Bateman is but he isn’t a 13.
At the moment Smilh looks nothing like a starting 6 for a Championship side let alone a SL player.

I admire your confidence but next year on paper will be worse than 2021 unless we recruit an exceptionally good coach. Hope I’m wrong.

And I hope I’m right but we’ll see.

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:43 am  

post wrote:

Can't beleive they are still doing it, I won't give the club another penny until they stop.

What’s it got to do with the club?

It’s the players choice to make a statement as far as I am aware.