Re: Final league placings and play-offs : Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:51 pm  

gerr'emonside wrote:

Reality is its probably not even much of a money spinner...bet the aggrigate gates for the 8 team play off are roughly the same as they were for the old top 5 as more would turn out for more meaningful matches!

It's nothing to do with attendances.

It's about viewing figures and schedules for Sky.

Re: Final league placings and play-offs : Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:11 am  

Bill Sonny wrote:

why wouldn't he come back fit? he's due back in about a month, more than enough time to be fit

He may get a set back like several of our players seem to do these days. We may rush him back for a big game like we did with Charnley in the cup.

Re: Final league placings and play-offs : Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:54 pm  

Conroy wrote:

Our form since losing Tommy has been awful and there's no guarantee he'll come back fit if he comes back at all.

Funny that, reminds me of a conversation when he got injured:

Odem wrote:

How many other teams could cope with those injuries?

FearTheVee wrote:

TL hasn't missed a single game yet and you're taking about how well you've coped!

Odem wrote:

Watch us cope without Tommy though

TL is a great player and any team would miss him badly - and Wigan are IMO. His experience and calm head would have been huge in the cup semi and you're a FAR better chance of taking out the GF if he comes back fit.

And despite that being the case, I hope he does come back fit - I have a lot of respect for him and he deserves better than his career in the UK ending through injury.

Re: Final league placings and play-offs : Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:21 pm  

Conroy wrote:

Saints and Leeds are coming into form at the right time again.

Re: Final league placings and play-offs : Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:29 pm  

Conroy wrote:

Our form since losing Tommy has been awful and there's no guarantee he'll come back fit if he comes back at all.

25/06/2012 20:00 Wigan Warriors 54 v 12 Widnes Vikings DW Stadium 13445 Report
29/06/2012 20:00 Wigan Warriors 22 v 30 Bradford Bulls DW Stadium 19628 Report
July
08/07/2012 15:30 Wakefield Trinity Wildcats 10 v 52 Wigan Warriors The Rapid Solicitors Stadium Report
14/07/2012 17:30 Leeds Rhinos 39 v 28 Wigan Warriors Galpharm Stadium Report
21/07/2012 15:00 London Broncos 6 v 44 Wigan Warriors Twickenham Stoop 4309 Report
27/07/2012 20:00 Wigan Warriors 40 v 16 Castleford Tigers DW Stadium 13975 Report


Form that most clubs would dream of!

Re: Final league placings and play-offs : Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:22 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

25/06/2012 20:00 Wigan Warriors 54 v 12 Widnes Vikings DW Stadium 13445 Report
29/06/2012 20:00 Wigan Warriors 22 v 30 Bradford Bulls DW Stadium 19628 Report
July
08/07/2012 15:30 Wakefield Trinity Wildcats 10 v 52 Wigan Warriors The Rapid Solicitors Stadium Report
14/07/2012 17:30 Leeds Rhinos 39 v 28 Wigan Warriors Galpharm Stadium Report
21/07/2012 15:00 London Broncos 6 v 44 Wigan Warriors Twickenham Stoop 4309 Report
27/07/2012 20:00 Wigan Warriors 40 v 16 Castleford Tigers DW Stadium 13975 Report


Form that most clubs would dream of!

Losing to any team you play that isn't in the bottom 4? Dreamland!!!

Re: Final league placings and play-offs : Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:46 pm  

I wouldnt say we were playing well. We've been very lucky with our run of fixtures imo.

Re: Final league placings and play-offs : Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:51 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

Losing to any team you play that isn't in the bottom 4? Dreamland!!!

just the way the fixtures have fallen, but we've battered the rest of the league since the start of the season so no worries eh (wire apart, obviously)

Re: Final league placings and play-offs : Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:33 pm  

Can you imagine if formula one had a play off system? Say Alonso finishes first after a full season & Button finishes 10th enough to qualify for a final race and then Button wins it to be the best driver for the year. It wouldn't work.
Mixing a league with knock out works with champions league footy & american football because they have the strength and depth and the money to back the sport. It it also suited for expansion, and the champions league may probably create a european super league in a few years time.
It doesn't work with rugby.This is an important time in our sport, we need to sustain not expand. We've been concentrating on expansion for too long, its fools gold. The real gold is in the M62 corriodor for now.
I liked the premiership system, I enjoyed the 96 and 97 finals when we wern't at our best but we ended the season with a trophy and had some bragging rights. Those finals complemented SL and ended the season with a bang similar to a SL grand final. It was 3 good trophies with a relegation system and it worked.

Re: Final league placings and play-offs : Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:08 pm  

Conroy wrote:

I wouldnt say we were playing well. We've been very lucky with our run of fixtures imo.

Yeh but Saints where hardly running red hot against Widnes a few weeks ago. Still you pick up the wins and keep going forward.

I think the league placings are pretty much nailed down now as far as the top 8 go. I think Saints will finish above Catalan, but whether we can catch Warrington will depend on this game next Monday.

If we win it then I would expect Warrington to lose to Wigan too, backing up for a Friday night game. They then have London before the CC final, and London had a good result against Catalan, but even so Warrington should win it.

Huddersfield well, that maybe a CC hangover game Wire could struggle with and then they have Widnes last who for some reason have started to play better now they can't make the top 8 at all.

I give Saints 1 in 3 chance of getting 2nd spot.