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: Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:38 am  
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Agreed. I find Andy Wilson particularly irritating. Being the RL journalist for The Guardian means he only gets about 200 words a week - so how does he use them? About four weeks ago, he wrote a story about Wigan must envy the "homegrown" talent on display at St Helens? :roll:


Yeah. That was a 'choke on your breakfast' moment, that was.

I don't know what it is, but I can only assume that a lot of these journos are typical 'small men in small job' type characters. They've never managed to throw off their old club preferences because they don't actually realise that's something they're supposed to do. But then, in that respect, I suppose they're pretty representative of nearly everyone else employed in RL.

I suspect IL and co feel they should rise above this sort of stuff, and be more professional. But the question I ask is how much biased crap can you endure from the supposed neutrals before you snap back? It's not as if being professional worries a lof these guys. Eddie Hemming's famous comment "So can Leeds beat Wigan this weekend," and Stevo responding with something like "let's hope so", springs to mind. Eddie simmering with rage on the night Maurice quite rightly won round one of the points-deduction tribunal is another. With the Muppet Show on Sky, I suspect it still boils down to that incident all those years ago when they weren't invited to a testimonial golf day that Andy Farrell had either organised or was to be the beneficiary of. They were shallow enough to raise the subject on TV. A true nadir even among their pathetic moments.
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: Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:49 am  
I suspect IL quite enjoyed putting them int heir place regarding the youth development at Wigan (see page 1 of this thread)

It was very pleasing to hear IL put the Wigan point of view so passionately and eloquently.

He certainly wasn't taking any cr@p from Jack and Trevor
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: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:00 am  
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Agreed. I find Andy Wilson particularly irritating. Being the RL journalist for The Guardian means he only gets about 200 words a week - so how does he use them? About four weeks ago, he wrote a story about Wigan must envy the "homegrown" talent on display at St Helens? :roll:


The thing is its easier to put kids in when your already a top side. Wigan did it all the time mid 90s. Craig Murdock, Danny Ellison, Rob Smyth to name but 3 scored tries for fun in a quality team but their careers came to nothing once they left Wigan.

Stephen Holgate another. What happened to him? Probably the most non remembered Grand Final winner ever but he started for Wigan in 1998 v Leeds.

The true test for saints "homegrown" talent will be when Cunningham, Long and Wellens are no longer around. Bit shoes to fill - more mentally than physically.
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: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:12 am  
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The thing is its easier to put kids in when your already a top side. Wigan did it all the time mid 90s. Craig Murdock, Danny Ellison, Rob Smyth to name but 3 scored tries for fun in a quality team but their careers came to nothing once they left Wigan.

Stephen Holgate another. What happened to him? Probably the most non remembered Grand Final winner ever but he started for Wigan in 1998 v Leeds.

The true test for saints "homegrown" talent will be when Cunningham, Long and Wellens are no longer around. Bit shoes to fill - more mentally than physically.


Again, this very sensible viewpoint is something the people we're talking about would lack the brain capacity to understood.
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: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:52 am  
can anyone help me out in getting the iplayer to work for this show, i've followed the link from here, got a message saying i had to install real player, so i did, and now when i click the links from this topic, i still get the message to download real player, even though it is already installed.
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: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:56 am  
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can anyone help me out in getting the iplayer to work for this show, i've followed the link from here, got a message saying i had to install real player, so i did, and now when i click the links from this topic, i still get the message to download real player, even though it is already installed.


Firstly restart your web browser. If that doesn't work, restart you PC. If that doesn't work re-install real player and hopefully that will sort it.
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: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:03 pm  
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Firstly restart your web browser. If that doesn't work, restart you PC. If that doesn't work re-install real player and hopefully that will sort it.


And if all this doesn't work, get a mac.
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: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:04 pm  
[quote="Rogues Gallery"]I suspect IL quite enjoyed putting them int heir place regarding the youth development at Wigan (see page 1 of this thread)

It was very pleasing to hear IL put the Wigan point of view so passionately and eloquently.

He certainly wasn't taking any cr@p from Jack and Trevor[/quote]


Jack and Trev dont need me to leap me to their defence and i would admit to having an "interest" in the programme but
im not sure it was as " confrontational" as you seem to think- Ian gave a very good and informed view of the clubs Youth and Scholarship system- i found it very informative -

i do think its relevant that all the clubs who at this moment have a lot of " home grown talent" in their first team squads and theres not many are flagged up - its nice to see some getting to work on this and a real positive - it doesnt need to be a numbers game of theyve got more than you have etc etc, -

I know that Wigan copped some flak on Day 1 of the season when so many people weighed in on the composition of the starting 13 against Wakefield but since then things have changed and i think Ian underlined that very well - i honestly thought it was a healthy debate with relevant questions asked and answered thoroughly .
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: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:10 pm  
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And if all this doesn't work, get a mac.


wouldn't mind one of them if you have a spare :thumb:

got it working now though, restart was required
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: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:42 pm  
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Noticed at the time he refers to it as "our message board" and "our website".

The show is iPlayer for those that missed it, Rugby League Extra


Thanks for the link. I'm listening now and Lenaghan is very articulate and is a stark contrast to Bert and Ernie.
Overall a very good and informative interview. Neither he or Mick Hogan duck a single question.
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Noticed at the time he refers to it as "our message board" and "our website".

The show is iPlayer for those that missed it, Rugby League Extra


Thanks for the link. I'm listening now and Lenaghan is very articulate and is a stark contrast to Bert and Ernie.
Overall a very good and informative interview. Neither he or Mick Hogan duck a single question.
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