: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:11 pm  

With what Ted is saying about IL signings and not Noble signings, didnt some people (wigan fans) in Austrailia for the world cup talk to Noble over there and Noble said he didnt want Piggy and identified someone else but IL insisted on him? Im sure someone posted this.

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:48 pm  

Bill_Barlow wrote:

With what Ted is saying about IL signings and not Noble signings, didnt some people (wigan fans) in Austrailia for the world cup talk to Noble over there and Noble said he didnt want Piggy and identified someone else but IL insisted on him? Im sure someone posted this.

Apparently Buderus was our first choice but we crapped out.

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:12 pm  

Hindsight- Dont sign Phelps for this year, dont sign Piggy, dont sign Roberts, dont sign Smith, dont retain Mathers.

Move for Buderus, Jeremy Smith and Brett Hodgson so 3 overseas instead of 4 and im absolutly sure that gives us enough money to move for another prop and retain Colban. Colban not the greatest player in a Wigan shirt but better than Mathers and more than good enough to compete with Ainscough to cover the wings if Pat is needed to drop to FB.

1. Hodgson.
2. Pryce/Colban/Ainscough.
3.Goulding.
4. Carmont.
5. Paaat
6. J. Smith
7. Tommy
8. Fielden
9. Buderus
10. Prescott
11. Hock
12. Bailey/Hansen/J.Tomkins
13. Locky

14. Feka
15. Eamonn/New Prop/Coley
16. McIlloram/S.Tomkins
17.Hansen/J.Tomkins/Bailey

Plenty of options IMO.

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:24 pm  

Bill_Barlow wrote:

Hindsight- Dont sign Phelps for this year, dont sign Piggy, dont sign Roberts, dont sign Smith, dont retain Mathers.

Move for Buderus, Jeremy Smith and Brett Hodgson so 3 overseas instead of 4 and im absolutly sure that gives us enough money to move for another prop and retain Colban. Colban not the greatest player in a Wigan shirt but better than Mathers and more than good enough to compete with Ainscough to cover the wings if Pat is needed to drop to FB.

1. Hodgson.
2. Pryce/Colban/Ainscough.
3.Goulding.
4. Carmont.
5. Paaat
6. J. Smith
7. Tommy
8. Fielden
9. Buderus
10. Prescott
11. Hock
12. Bailey/Hansen/J.Tomkins
13. Locky

14. Feka
15. Eamonn/New Prop/Coley
16. McIlloram/S.Tomkins
17.Hansen/J.Tomkins/Bailey

Plenty of options IMO.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing cocker. The thing Wigan employ Lenegan and Noble for (yes IL will be an employee as well as the owner) is foresight, something that prevents us signing/retaining the wrong people!

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:37 pm  

WigansForeignLegion wrote:

Apparently Buderus was our first choice but we crapped out.

It wasn't Buderus. I'm not a big fan of the NRL so the name mentioned didn't stick in my mind (plus I'd had a few, it was Oz after all) the only thing that stuck in my mind was Piggy was Nobby's second choice.

So I think it's harsh to say Nobby didn't want Piggy he just wasn't his first option. Nobby was definitely very positive about him and it came across as although we may have failed in getting our target we still have a star player. He hasn't shown it yet but let's remember it's only three games in.

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:23 am  

Woody_woody wrote:

It wasn't Buderus. I'm not a big fan of the NRL so the name mentioned didn't stick in my mind (plus I'd had a few, it was Oz after all) the only thing that stuck in my mind was Piggy was Nobby's second choice.

So I think it's harsh to say Nobby didn't want Piggy he just wasn't his first option. Nobby was definitely very positive about him and it came across as although we may have failed in getting our target we still have a star player. He hasn't shown it yet but let's remember it's only three games in.

I'm pretty sure it was the Bronco's hooker Michael Ennis, although I think he's signed with the Bulldogs for this season.

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:46 am  

lets see mr lenegan still have faith when he loses 2000 a week on the gate game 1 = 14,500 game 2 at the jjb =12,500 game 3 ?

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:54 am  

Mini Rogue wrote:

I'm pretty sure it was the Bronco's hooker Michael Ennis, although I think he's signed with the Bulldogs for this season.

Good player.

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:59 am  

Woody_woody wrote:

It wasn't Buderus. I'm not a big fan of the NRL so the name mentioned didn't stick in my mind (plus I'd had a few, it was Oz after all) the only thing that stuck in my mind was Piggy was Nobby's second choice.

So I think it's harsh to say Nobby didn't want Piggy he just wasn't his first option. Nobby was definitely very positive about him and it came across as although we may have failed in getting our target we still have a star player. He hasn't shown it yet but let's remember it's only three games in.

The POB is a lot slower in Australia than over here, especially relevant to a player in his position.

He also played very little rugby in the last few months.

He's always been a larger player, on the boundaries of fitness levels.

All sensible reasons as to why Piggy ain't firing yet, I'm sure we'll see the best of him soon.

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:00 am  

thepriestman85 wrote:

Other people can say what about Noble and the current Wigan team but imo this lazy attitude of oh well the comp is only won in Oct is a major concern for me.

There should be no room for failure at Wigan but for some reason they seem to have rationalised it in there own minds that it's ok.

To be honest it's insulting to the fans who turn up every week and pay what they do. If these games aren't as important as the ones later on in the season why not charge friendly prices as that what they seem to be considered as by BN and IL/

Yes, I'm sick of that "this competition is won in October, not February" line as well. Why didn't the interviewer in question point out that, 9 times out of 10, the comp is won in October by a team that finishes in the top 2? Which is probably not going to feature a team who've lost their first 3 to bottom-half clubs!