Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:36 pm  

BoredWiganer wrote:

I would be fine with either Lewis or Sneyd picking it up, both have been integral to their sides form this season. Sneyd in particular deserves it as once again, Salford have finished way above where everybody expected them to.

If it isn't Peet (it should be, 3 trophies this year with a potential 4th must count for something) then i wouldn't be opposed to Rowley winning coach of the year either, i would see that as deserved.

Peet could do the Grand Slam and I still think Willie Peters will win coach of the year. Sky have thrown everything behind the HKR story this year. Lewis will rightly win the MOS and Peters will get coach of the year. Clearly we'll have the young player of the year in Junior Nsemba, although if Sky had their way they'd probably give it to Ryan Hall

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:44 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Peet could do the Grand Slam and I still think Willie Peters will win coach of the year. Sky have thrown everything behind the HKR story this year. Lewis will rightly win the MOS and Peters will get coach of the year. Clearly we'll have the young player of the year in Junior Nsemba, although if Sky had their way they'd probably give it to Ryan Hall

I don't get this "doing well at a perceived smaller club" being more impressive than at a bigger/more successful club. Hull KR have done well this year but as yet have won nothing. KR have been there or thereabouts for a couple of years, have some of the best players in the comp and spend up to cap. Why is Willie Peters winning nothing (so far) more impressive than Peet winning everything? Being at a big club is no guarantee of success. Just ask Rohan Smith, Paul Wellens, Steve McNamara or a succession of Hull FC coaches.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:58 pm  

Phuzzy wrote:

I don't get this "doing well at a perceived smaller club" being more impressive than at a bigger/more successful club. Hull KR have done well this year but as yet have won nothing. KR have been there or thereabouts for a couple of years, have some of the best players in the comp and spend up to cap. Why is Willie Peters winning nothing (so far) more impressive than Peet winning everything? Being at a big club is no guarantee of success. Just ask Rohan Smith, Paul Wellens, Steve McNamara or a succession of Hull FC coaches.

I agree but the people who make the decisions won't. When you have success, it then seems to become common place that you're expected to get more and they look at coaches who've improved clubs for awards like this instead. In fairness to Saints fans, I guess they had these frustrations with Kristian Woolf, when other coaches would take out the award yet not win as much (or nothing at all). I've actually just checked and the last 4 coaches of the year have been Lam (CC winner), Peet (CC winner), McNamara (LLS winner) and Lam (LLS winner) and that's at a time when Saints hoovered up Grand Final after Grand Final and then Wigan won everything bar (domestically) the CC last year. It won't help that the award is given out before the Grand Final has been played out I suppose.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:10 pm  

Just watched the video of Lee Briers discussing the fact he turned down a head coaching role this season (Hull FC I believe). Admitted that he's very unsure if becoming a head coach is for him, much prefers developing players and thinks he could do this better remaining an assistant.

Now, we all know that Paul Wellens has just been given an extended contract, much to the dismay of many of their supporters due to their belief of his limitations. So, is it likely they will improve much next season with Briers seconds in command? And if not, and let's say Wellens gets the boot mid year next season would Briers take the job on or would he prefer to he assistant to a new incoming coach?

Obviously I'm ignoring the fact that they could still shock everyone and win the next three games to become Champions, very unlikely if recent performances are to be compared to (Wire Away, Wigan away, likely Hull KR in the final). Which would cut Wellens a bit of slack.