: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:41 pm  

jonh wrote:

Agreed the notion that someone like Hampson should come in would not even be mentioned were it not for the fact he was an ex player of the club.

The jobs for the boys mentality is one I hoped we had moved away from, we need the best that our funds can bring in, not an ex player with a HND in PE (maybe a bit harsh but you get the point).

Totally agree jon, the art of conditioning is a science now as illustrated by the the practices that all the NRL clubs employ.

A little OT but who's are club Doctor? For many years I remember it being Dr Zaman however I see Prof Chris Brookes at all the matches now.

[DaveO]

: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:49 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Jonh, that was the point I was making. As much as I liked Hampo as a player I'm not convinced he would be any better a conditioner than Forshaw is now.

Why not? It doesn't follow because he's an ex-player he will be a poor conditioner any more than it does he would be good at the job.

Wasn't Perrillini from Saints supposed to be top notch in this department and also isn't Pongia supposed to be a good conditioner?

I have no idea what qualifications any of them have but I thought Perrillini was considered a big factor in Saints improved fitness and ability to play for 80 mins when he was there.

I am not saying Hampson should get the job but I thought it was actually what he did now as his career.

Dave

: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:07 pm  

DaveO wrote:

Why not? It doesn't follow because he's an ex-player he will be a poor conditioner any more than it does he would be good at the job.

Wasn't Perrillini from Saints supposed to be top notch in this department and also isn't Pongia supposed to be a good conditioner?

I have no idea what qualifications any of them have but I thought Perrillini was considered a big factor in Saints improved fitness and ability to play for 80 mins when he was there.

I am not saying Hampson should get the job but I thought it was actually what he did now as his career.

Dave

Hampson is no longer involved in conditioning he has a non rugby job, the Pongia "conditioner" thing comes from the fact he is was a personal trainer at the JJB in Wigan, ex player, personal trainer never done a days work as a conditioner in his life, but because he worked in a fitness related industry it was assumed he would make a good conditioner.

Appollo had a very good grounding went to university got his degree and earned his stripes.

Hampson is totally untested in the game of rugby league, and while a great player has nothing on his CV that would make me want him to be at Wigan.

There was of course his brief spell working with the International game, for Tony Smith his ex team mate, again smacking of jobs for the boys.

A conditioner will have more contact with the players than any other member of the coaching staff, it is crucial the right man is appointed if that man is to come from the UK i do not think he will come from rugby league circles, as there in my opinion is nobody up to it that would be available.

: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:09 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

Me to, living in the West Yorkshire area I've always had a soft spot for Bradford and too see them as they currently are is a real shame.

It just seems to be getting worse and worse for them.

I feel awful for their fans! They once filled the North stand and now we are lucky if they bring 700.

Bullmania is now just a story.

In relation to previous posts, MaGuire will be here in november and Forshaw will be leaving and MaGuire will bring his own staff and one player

: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:15 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

What makes you think that Steve Hampson is any better than Mike Forshaw?

Freddy Flintoffs personal trainer in years gone by.

If he was poor he wouldnt have such a high profile gig as that one.

Anyway, enough of being contraversial.

I just hope our new man turns feca back in to the muscle ridden rampaging animal he was the we signed.

: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:19 pm  

Tricky Dicky wrote:

Freddy Flintoffs personal trainer in years gone by.

If he was poor he wouldnt have such a high profile gig as that one.

Freddy Flintoff the injury prone cricketer? Whose career at the top level has been cut short? Hardly a great advertisement for his ability, don't think there is any coincidence he had a short but high profile life working in the business, ex rugby player bit of a novelty and spotted a niche in the market fair play to him.

[Pemps]

: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:36 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

Totally agree jon, the art of conditioning is a science now as illustrated by the the practices that all the NRL clubs employ.

A little OT but who's are club Doctor? For many years I remember it being Dr Zaman however I see Prof Chris Brookes at all the matches now.

I think they have a team of Doctors now. One of them works at the surgery in Shevington. Can't remember his surname but they call him Dr Dave.

: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:39 pm  

jonh wrote:

Freddy Flintoff the injury prone cricketer? Whose career at the top level has been cut short? Hardly a great advertisement for his ability, don't think there is any coincidence he had a short but high profile life working in the business, ex rugby player bit of a novelty and spotted a niche in the market fair play to him.

It wouldn't look good on Hampos cv would it.

: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:45 pm  

We could sign the bloke up as conditioner. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 319580.stm Looks like he knows his stuff.

We could sign the bloke up as conditioner. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 319580.stm Looks like he knows his stuff.

[Pemps]

: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:00 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

So Forshaw is the only one still left standing, Pendelbury's gone Veivers has gone and of course Noble has gone so now were just waiting for the axe to fall on Forshaw.

Look's as though were having a complete overall of staff that many of us wanted, any word on when McGuire's arriving?

Not heard about that. When did that happen?