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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:39 pm  
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:56 pm  
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Name me one player that has come back to strengthen the club


Get real, No player in the modern game is going to "Test Themselves", they are going for the lifestyle and money, The End


Tomkins, he was instrumental in our 2018 Grand Final win. Left us because we offered him a reduced contract then went on to have (in my opinion) the best years of his career in 2019-2021.

Bateman was massively underrated in his second spell with us imo. Maybe not as unconventional in his playstyle as before, but certainly effective and i would say we were strengthened by him being here.

I would even say Joe Burgess, again better in his first spell but he was a solid winger for us on his return, maybe a bit unlucky with injuries. Scored a hat-trick in our WCC win and very influential in that game in particular. Think it is fair to say he strengthened us and has gone on to play well for Salford.

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The Whiffy Kipper wrote:
Name me one player that has come back to strengthen the club


Get real, No player in the modern game is going to "Test Themselves", they are going for the lifestyle and money, The End


Tomkins came back and strengthened us, he was better than Escare, Same for Sarge and Budgie, they might not have been as good as when the went but came back and were better than was here


Wrote my section and drafted it earlier, i would probably agree with Sarge strengthening us on his return aswell.

You can't just blanket statement that no players are to return who leave for the NRL, it should always be judged on a case-by-case basis on what value that returning player can bring to our current squad.

On Sutton, i don't think he would bring a lot of value so no i wouldn't want him back. Also he has had some injury troubles since signing for Canterbury so would also be a risk i don't feel we need to take. Similar to my thoughts on Thompson, but now knowing that Smithies was leaving i can understand that one more.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:58 pm  


Put that one on the same shelf as Will Carling claiming Leeds offered him a £1,000,000 in the era when Ellery Hanley cost around £200,000.

Looks good in your biography, especially when you know you were never really tested by playing the real code, and no doubt the Union hordes will lap it up for the same reason - but the rest of the world can take it with a pinch of salt.


Put that one on the same shelf as Will Carling claiming Leeds offered him a £1,000,000 in the era when Ellery Hanley cost around £200,000.

Looks good in your biography, especially when you know you were never really tested by playing the real code, and no doubt the Union hordes will lap it up for the same reason - but the rest of the world can take it with a pinch of salt.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:15 pm  
Why would he need to lie about it? He is the most recognisable rugby player of modern times. Telling a lie about a provincial sport that no one really cares about isn’t going to generate extra book sales
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:03 pm  
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Why would he need to lie about it? He is the most recognisable rugby player of modern times. Telling a lie about a provincial sport that no one really cares about isn’t going to generate extra book sales


It won't help him sell books, but that doesn't mean it isn't a fantasy.

The rumours about Owen Farrell have been circling for years. It was similar when Saints were chasing David Campesi. You don't seriously think there'd have been no rumours if Johnny Wilkinson had been on the verge of coming over?
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:10 pm  
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You cannot be serious?


Disrespectful might not be the best choice of words but between leaving us and going to Canberra he had obviously been training his booty off/dieting better and got himself in a condition he was never in at Wigan which transferred on to the pitch too.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:08 pm  
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Disrespectful might not be the best choice of words but between leaving us and going to Canberra he had obviously been training his booty off/dieting better and got himself in a condition he was never in at Wigan which transferred on to the pitch too.


I still can't fathom why certain Sutton loyalists don't understand this.

The evidence was there, right in front of our eyes.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:38 pm  
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I still can't fathom why certain Sutton loyalists don't understand this.

The evidence was there, right in front of our eyes.


Loyalists? Evidence ? What are you going on about?

The only FACT is that he played almost 120 games for the club & won two GF's - you don't do that if you aren't A - a good player, B - performing and C - in the right physical condition.

You make out like he was some waste of space, fat slob at Wigan. Sadly it's like a switch with some fans. When a player leaves he's instantly either overrated, or is a bad egg etc.

There's life outside of Wigan RL and the NRL is a bigger draw. Not sure why some fans don't understand this?
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:27 pm  
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Disrespectful might not be the best choice of words but between leaving us and going to Canberra he had obviously been training his booty off/dieting better and got himself in a condition he was never in at Wigan which transferred on to the pitch too.


That’s not correct mate. Sutty was super fit at the end of his Wigan career. The reason for that was down to him training at Blundell’s as well as at Wigan.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 pm  
Agree re Sutton he was a slow burner for me but in his last year, where he was still probably only 23/24, I thought he was outstanding and lost the puppy fat.

I’d have him back in an instant if he were coming back.
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