Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:31 pm  

jonh wrote:

If he stays fit he will absolutely dominate the Championship.

Cracking lad Iain. I hope he does well at Wakefield.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:35 am  

I noticed this at old Trafford (didn’t come across on the tele) but Miski was hurt badly in the second.

Was hobbling around, Isa keep talking to him to make sure he was fine, King dropped back for a few kicks.

Some effort to get through the game.

Been told unfortunately he needs a op and will miss the start of the season.

Immediate chance for Eckersley?

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:43 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

Yeah and HKR. Shame he ever bothered with that Union move, as that probably set him back a bit.

The Union move definitely did. Good for the bank balance but less so for his development (that’s not a pop at Thornley - we make the best decisions for our family and I respect that). Madge was furious and I think he made some remarks in the press after he’d gone that showed that.

Thornley has had a good career but I always felt he was destined for more. Never placed for England etc.. He was destroying youth teams at centre playing for our academy and he needed to be pushed earlier to play against players his size so he could develop further and not just rely on his size advantage. An advantage he wouldn’t have when he joined the first team. As a country we don’t seem to be able to produce top class centres. Thornley had the potential to be a top class centre.

At one point before he moved to Union Brisbane Broncos were interested in taking him. Would have loved to have seen how he would have turned out there.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:22 am  

cadoo wrote:

The Union move definitely did. Good for the bank balance but less so for his development (that’s not a pop at Thornley - we make the best decisions for our family and I respect that). Madge was furious and I think he made some remarks in the press after he’d gone that showed that.

Thornley has had a good career but I always felt he was destined for more. Never placed for England etc.. He was destroying youth teams at centre playing for our academy and he needed to be pushed earlier to play against players his size so he could develop further and not just rely on his size advantage. An advantage he wouldn’t have when he joined the first team. As a country we don’t seem to be able to produce top class centres. Thornley had the potential to be a top class centre.

At one point before he moved to Union Brisbane Broncos were interested in taking him. Would have loved to have seen how he would have turned out there.

We can add him to the list of Union casualties.

Henry Paul, Iestyn Harris, Joel Tomkins. None of them came back the forces they'd once (or could have) been.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:30 am  

NSW wrote:

I noticed this at old Trafford (didn’t come across on the tele) but Miski was hurt badly in the second.

Was hobbling around, Isa keep talking to him to make sure he was fine, King dropped back for a few kicks.

Some effort to get through the game.

Been told unfortunately he needs a op and will miss the start of the season.

Immediate chance for Eckersley?

Not great for Miski.

Obvious thing to say, but a good pre season really sets a player up right for the whole season. Was it Byrne who was injured last year? It took him a while to get up to speed and then he pulled up injured after that. French missed a pre season a while back and suffered a big injury a few games into the season etc.

Like you said however, it opens the doors for others - much in the same way that Miski has benefited from previously. I'd expect Eckersley, Douglass and even Hampshire to be training the house down over the next 3/4 months.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:49 am  

NSW wrote:

I noticed this at old Trafford (didn’t come across on the tele) but Miski was hurt badly in the second.

Was hobbling around, Isa keep talking to him to make sure he was fine, King dropped back for a few kicks.

Some effort to get through the game.

Been told unfortunately he needs a op and will miss the start of the season.

Immediate chance for Eckersley?

Could be wrong but I think Miski got injured early in the game rather than the second half, and managed to get through it. That's not to say he was 100% but I'd hope/assume it's not that bad an injury if he played through the majority of the game with it.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:36 am  

Still hoping we (Hull FC) will try and Sign Joe Shorrocks. I'm guessing with the strength of your pack for next season then his game time will be limited.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:05 pm  

RockNRolla wrote:

Still hoping we (Hull FC) will try and Sign Joe Shorrocks. I'm guessing with the strength of your pack for next season then his game time will be limited.

In theory we're not ridiculously well stocked at second row. We're losing KPP and Farrell turns 34 next year.

That said, he's still behind Faz, Walters, Isa and Nsemba, so it makes sense for him to move on now for the sake of his own career.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:01 pm  

Cherry_&_White wrote:

In theory we're not ridiculously well stocked at second row. We're losing KPP and Farrell turns 34 next year.

That said, he's still behind Faz, Walters, Isa and Nsemba, so it makes sense for him to move on now for the sake of his own career.

Potentially Isa's last season with us in 2024 plus who knows how long Faz will go. Take those two out and we look short if injuries occur.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:29 pm  

MattyB wrote:

Potentially Isa's last season with us in 2024 plus who knows how long Faz will go. Take those two out and we look short if injuries occur.

From a selfish point of view I'd like to keep him - he was really useful to have in reserve this year and there's every chance that we'll have to call on him next year too for a handful of games.

If I were him though and I was given the chance to get a proper run as a first teamer at a good club, I'd probably take it. Even if this is Isa's last run and we can't look too far in the future for Farrell, we still have two second rowers who are younger than him and ahead of him. Maybe there could be a role for him as a ball playing 13 now that Smithies seems to be gone, but that doesn't seem to be the direction that we're going in.