Re: ZAK : Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:45 am  

The_Enforcer wrote:

Trophy is not won or lost on how clean your driving license is. What business is it of a rugby club if he has motoring offence?

It has nothing to do with what the offence was, It's the fact he has committed an offence when he is supposed to be on his best behaviour, He can not be trusted and he will do it again, He needs to face the consequences of misbehaving rather than getting several chances, How long before he drags some of our younger players into his exploits?, get rid before he has a chance to cause serious trouble for the club, I'm sure Cas and that Nottinghamcas fella would be over the moon to get him back

Re: ZAK : Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:06 am  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

It’s very clear that Hardaker is being judged not on the drink driving but on his collection of stupid actions. There are many examples of top class sportsmen who have convictions for criminal matters but go on to have success and retain the support of fans. Roberto Firmino, Tiger Woods, Eric Cantona etc.
I’ll never ever condone what ZH has done because it was 100% wrong and showed no consideration for the safety of others but there are not many professions where a man would lose his livelihood over a drink drive conviction. If Wigan get shut, I’d completely understand why but if he’s retained I wouldn’t condemn them for it either.

I have to disagree.

If I had aimed a derogatory slur at a co worker at my place of work I would likely be sacked for that alone.

Add in a run of different offences that while not conducted at work or on co workers embarrassed my company and colleagues I would expect to be sacked for those as well.

Just because he is a sportsman doesn't give him the right to behaviour like this. In fact it's people making this very excuse that lets them get away with it

Re: ZAK : Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:22 am  

I can't stand the guy and I do blame him for wrecking our chances to become champions last year.

However, HE DID NOT HAVE AN AFFAIR WITH ANY RHINOS PLAYERS WIFE. Absolute garbage , just a made up rumour to add fuel to the fire. Hall and Zak were regularly tweeting each other whilst Zak was at Cas last year. Plus they played with each other for England v Samoa, when Wayne Bennett played the competitions best full back at centre.

I know he has ADHD and on various meds for that. I do wonder if he's ever been tested for autism, because he seems to lack any awareness / responsibility into practice.

Re: ZAK : Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:35 am  

Getting boreing reading none Wigan fans moaning about Hardacre .... We’ve got the small matter of a Grand final to bother about today we can worry about Hardacre another day but you lot carry on

Re: ZAK : Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:24 am  

Fallon wrote:

I have to disagree.

If I had aimed a derogatory slur at a co worker at my place of work I would likely be sacked for that alone.

Add in a run of different offences that while not conducted at work or on co workers embarrassed my company and colleagues I would expect to be sacked for those as well.

Just because he is a sportsman doesn't give him the right to behaviour like this. In fact it's people making this very excuse that lets them get away with it

Not sure what your job is but my post remains accurate. There are not many professions where a drink drive conviction would cost you your livelihood. If you lost your job because of your stupidity, you’d be highly likely to get another job doing what u do (unless police etc).
Hardaker lost his job twice (Leeds and Cas) and got another job. The Leeds and Cas attitude towards him is rife on here and when added to the anti Wigan hatred has culminated in almost the perfect storm for you to target.
As I said, if we keep him I’ll not condemn the club and if we release him, I’ll understand why.

Re: ZAK : Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:30 am  

Morton2017 wrote:

Getting boreing reading none Wigan fans moaning about Hardacre .... We’ve got the small matter of a Grand final to bother about today we can worry about Hardacre another day but you lot carry on

Sadly I appear to be at a loose end today so quite enjoying the Zak banter

Re: ZAK : Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:54 am  

I dont watch rugby to see how angelic a player is off the field. I watch it to see talent on the field. Rugby clubs poking noses in off the field matters is just another example of a rotten PC culture that is destroying all aspects of life. How he lives his life away from his work is his business not that of Wigan, Leeds or Cas.

Re: ZAK : Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:58 am  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

Not sure what your job is but my post remains accurate. There are not many professions where a drink drive conviction would cost you your livelihood. If you lost your job because of your stupidity, you’d be highly likely to get another job doing what u do (unless police etc).
Hardaker lost his job twice (Leeds and Cas) and got another job. The Leeds and Cas attitude towards him is rife on here and when added to the anti Wigan hatred has culminated in almost the perfect storm for you to target.
As I said, if we keep him I’ll not condemn the club and if we release him, I’ll understand why.

Completely agree with you,indeed I’ve said as much about him losing his job over the drink driving you can’t keep beating him on the head over past mistakes they are in the past and the penalty is being paid for them.

It does seem to be the same Cas/Leeds fans keeping this tiresome thread going so I think I’ll bow out of it now and say this what will be will be with him.

Re: ZAK : Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:58 pm  

If you keep repeating the mistake of 'poor' choice and letting down those that support you and those that give you the 'get out of jail' card expect to get some serious flak. With the drink driving conviction he's already p**sed over the Chairman's chips, what next, If his last chance hasn't arrived just yet, his next incident will probably be his final downfall. He's just a low rent Gazza.

Re: ZAK : Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:04 am  

When he watches occasions like last night’s grand final, surely he must be dying to be involved. Winning big games in big stadia is the pinnacle of a rugby players life and he has the talent to be involved in them a lot. It’s hard to comprehend how a ‘professional’ player could risk missing out on it through being stupid!