I think your going a bit over the top there mate, can only really remember people on here saying he was a good player but not what we need which is right.

But Griffin is better than what we've got i.e O'Carroll who if we don't sign Giffin will be asked to be our 5th prop next season which won't work.



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Is better than what we have this season imo and is a step forward.

I don't consider Griffin a better option than O'Carrol. I'd rather we kept O'Carrol and worked on him becoming a better player for less wages than bringing in Griffin who offers little more than Coley.



Considering most people have pointed out Coley should be moving on and we should be investing in props that are better.



I'd consider this signing a panic signing to appease restless fans. In the long run can bite us in the . Whereas we should have brought in a decent prop for next season and gained another 1 or 2 once Fielden's contract ran out we now bring in mediocracy for next season to go along potential signings once Fielden goes.



Just treading water with this type of signing. Griffin would b e a savvy signing if we had little money on the cap, but with Smith/Hock potentially Bailey/Coley leaving we have plenty to work with and if griffin is the result i'm not impressed.

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at least it means we wont be trying to sign him any time soon

Yes imagine us trying to sign one of the best props in the comp. Why would we want to do that?!



He has been outstanding this year and pretty good for the last few he gets better every year, for me a certainty for England come the end of the year.

Griffin's key stats for a prop show that he isn't better than what we've got. O'Carroll is also contracted until 2011 after signing a new contract last season.



We don't need a 5th prop we need a 1st one. The rest of the props apart from Coley are all contracted for next season and as I've already said if we are only changing like for like there's no point. If we can move one of the contracted props on we need to be signing someone a lot better than Griffin.

Good signing for them you don't see many six year deals, I don't think anything other than a stupid amount of money would have got Crabtree away from the Giants the guy obviously loves it there, and I admire his loyalty to stick with them.

You get the impression sometimes that unless a player is an Australian test regular, some people will never be happy with any signing.



Crabtree is an extremely good prop who may turn into a great one. Credit to him I say for commiting to his home town club.

Leaving the prop situation a side for a minute, it looks like we may have dodged a bullet in Thorman, looks like the guy's possibly off to the Bull's thank god for that, now all we need is someone to snap up Johnson and we'll have dodged another.

I remember us being linked with Crabtree a couple of years back and some questioning his ability yet now he's kicked on and he's a class act people slate us for not going for him.



The point i'm trying to make is that sometimes the club will have to sign players on potential and not current ability. If the club want to sign a player like Griffin for example because they feel he's got improvment in him then thats good and in a couple of years time we may look back and say what a great peice of business it was.



As a club we need to improve our record of taking players on and improving them. The best teams like Saints and Leeds do it and we need to start doing the same.

Bradford really are finished if they sign Thorman!



As for Johnson if Bailey and Carmont were both to leave and we signed 2 forwards and a halfback and still had the cash to sign him i'd take the gamble.



He's still a good player when he gets himself on the pitch.

PJ can cover 2nd row and centre although has had injury problems in the past. Good cover as a squad player but not in the 1st 17.

I'd have him back on that basis.

But we have loads of cover already in those areas...

Goulding/Gleeson/Carmont/Pryce/Phelps are our centres atm

Bailey/Tomkins/Hansen/Farrell/Flanagan/Mossop/O'Loughlin in the back row.



If more than two of those leave maybe, but I dont see the point.

best years behind him, best left well alone

heard the crack that we are in for Cane Cleal son of Noel Crusher Cleal

a good looking chap

we got rid of a load lof local talent because they were arrogant and thought the owned the town, some of whom were very promising players who have gone on to be very good players. last we thing we need is griffin who has all these negative traits and is at best an average player.

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Except he'll never come back.

Never trust a good looking prop.

I guess kel was wrong

Name them

Maybe we can sign Glenn Morrison to replace Bailey

Rather keep Bailey.



He at least gets himself out onto the pitch 99% of the time and is 4 years younger.

Gone to Wakey now.