Re: ZAK : Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:14 pm  

How many guests at the royal wedding will have white powder today? Why is it OK for them to go unscrutinised and pay for injunctions from the press?

Re: ZAK : Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:38 pm  

I haven't a clue but I'd guess it would be quite a few. I wonder how many are subject to random drug testing as part of their work?

With Zak it's a pattern violence, homophobia, drinking, drugs, maybe even other indescretions well smoothed over. Not sure about the unscrutinised, the press seem to delight in getting a scoop involving those in the public eye when dabbling in the stuff as for paying for injunctions I suppose if you have the cash you'll do it but I would suggest if your'e caught over the limit in a Ford Fiesta you may not be able to afford an injunction. I would agree such injunctions should not be granted people know the risks, if you caught tough the law should equate to all irrespective of money.

Re: ZAK : Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:11 pm  

The Biffs Back wrote:

I posted this about Zak and how Wigan's chairman would handle the situation back in September

How will Lenagan now handle this situation after stating that Zak can't afford any more controversies but now that he has been found guilty of drink driving prior to him even lacing up his boots for Wigan?

An awkward situation without a doubt for Lenagan with how he handles this

I feel sorry for Sam Tomkins who has been fantastic this season and has played his best rugby since his return from the NZ Warriors and has been allowed to leave Wigan the club he loves, to sign for the Catalan Dragons for 2019 onwards, when I'd guess that it wasn't his preferred option

I agree with a lot of that but I’m not sure about feeling sorry for Tomkins. I doubt we’ll ever know, or if we do it will be when he releases a book upon retirement but I suspect that we signed Hardaker because Tomkins was leaving not the other way round.

As for Zak I honestly don’t know what we should do. I get the point that he is potentially possibly even inevitably going to be a disruptive influence to some extent. However from a purely playing point of view we won’t be able to replace him with anywhere near the same quality.

Maybe it’s because I’m a glass half full person, maybe it’s just blind optimism but there’s still that part of me that thinks if we can get him over to Lancashire to live and keep him away from his ‘mates’ we have a cracking player on our hands.

I still wish we’d activated the one year clause in Tomkins’ contract before it was too late though.

Re: ZAK : Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:20 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

If he's being retained then he has to move to Wigan immediately.
Get him out of his circle of mates and introduce him to people who have a different lifestyle.
With his past if he stays in the area local to him he's no chance of turning his life around. His only chance is making a go of it away from his current lifestyle that's got him where he is now.
I reckon the club may well go with that, I don't know though!

He’s supposedly renting batsman’s house while Bateman is in aus . Is the house in Lancashire ?

Re: ZAK : Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:00 pm  

He won't change, he'll just get a new set of idiot hangers on.

The more you hear of the Ford Fiesta Fiasco the more you know he's a lame waste of space, justifying the desperate need to drive, GOLF CLUBS!! Guess a taxi wouldn't have been any use.

Re: ZAK : Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:26 pm  

RickK wrote:

I haven't a clue but I'd guess it would be quite a few. I wonder how many are subject to random drug testing as part of their work?

With Zak it's a pattern violence, homophobia, drinking, drugs, maybe even other indescretions well smoothed over. Not sure about the unscrutinised, the press seem to delight in getting a scoop involving those in the public eye when dabbling in the stuff as for paying for injunctions I suppose if you have the cash you'll do it but I would suggest if your'e caught over the limit in a Ford Fiesta you may not be able to afford an injunction. I would agree such injunctions should not be granted people know the risks, if you caught tough the law should equate to all irrespective of money.

Don’t forget shagging other team mates wives

Re: ZAK : Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:45 pm  

Not good for team spirit I guess.

He's pretty much feral

Re: ZAK : Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:16 pm  

Ian Lenagan warned that Hardaker cannot afford any more controversies.

Lenagan said: “This wasn’t a decision that we made lightly. We recognise the serious nature of this incident and our choice in offering this opportunity should not be seen as condoning his actions in any way.

“We had extensive conversations with Zak and his family before making our offer.

“We encountered a man who, after eight months of reflection, openly admits that he has made a series of significantly poor decisions over the past few years.

“Crucially, we also saw someone who recognises that this is the final opportunity to focus on delivering the achievements his talent should generate.

“I have had the experiences in business and sport of offering contrite individuals the final opportunity and environment to learn from their mistakes with some notable successes and occasional failures.


Eight months and Zak admits openly to some of his decisions being poor, violence, homophobia, kicked out England camp, drugs and after the interview drink driving poor an tad understated just wrong I'd say


Whatever they saw should have gone to Specsavers

Re: ZAK : Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:22 pm  

Bobtownrhino wrote:

Don’t forget shagging other team mates wives

Who's wife was he turking

Re: ZAK : Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:26 pm  

The chap said wives