: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:54 pm  

windy wrote:

Utter shambles, makes you wonder what the guys were doing in Lanzarote and in training at Orrell

I was quite impressed with Noble's enthusiasm at the recent forum, its a pity he can't instill this into the players.

I still think we need an aggressive prop

All in not lost its only the first game, bring on Hull

o' barrell didnt do that badly. coley needs a big season or id have him shipped out

: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:02 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

o' barrell didnt do that badly. coley needs a big season or id have him shipped out

O'Carroll was our MoM.

: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:05 pm  

windy wrote:

O'Carroll was our MoM.

couldnt get to game and didnt hear it announced on radio. was just my overall impression.

[DaveO]

: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:07 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

couldnt get to game and didnt hear it announced on radio. was just my overall impression.

I am pretty sure Feka was announced over the Tannoy as MoM (which was a joke) but O'Carroll and to a lesser extent J Tomkins were some positives to take away from the game.

Dave

: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:09 pm  

Bolton_Warrior wrote:

I would agree with that.

Explains why even though most of our forwards had good games we did little during the game. It is like running into a brick wall.

People are going to lol but our forwards often work harder than their oppoents. Feka was head and shoulders above anybody else at times in that game for both sides. However, the way we play is so unproductive it is hopeless. We do not go through a set to engineer an opening. It is just 1 v 13 tackle after tackle. Pro teams can deal with that with one hand tied behind their back.

Our prop often take tackls 1 and 2 religiously in every set. Not hard for opposition tams to know this and just blitz them.

: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:10 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

couldnt get to game and didnt hear it announced on radio. was just my overall impression.

Its just my opinion, don't actually know who the official MoM was

After Eamon I would have chosen Max

: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:18 pm  

Charlie Seeling wrote:

People are going to lol but our forwards often work harder than their oppoents. Feka was head and shoulders above anybody else at time in tht game for both sides. However, the way we play is so unproductive it is hopeless. We do not go through a set to engineer an opening. It is just 1 v 13 tackle after tackle. Pro teams can deal with that with one hand tied behind their back.

Our prop often take tackls 1 and 2 religiously in every set. Not hard for opposition tams to know this and just blitz them.

It's telegraphed rugby everytime, you can see before the balls played which forward will be taking it in, you dont need to even think of tackles one and two it's not that hard !! Fekka does a great job hitting the line and makeing yards it's hard when the defenders are set, one reason he gets knackered so quick it's the same reason Hock and lockers loose the ball is the way they have to take it in, in effect they are trying too hard or should I say having too because of the poor structure .

: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:21 pm  

That Mon wrote:

It's telegraphed rugby everytime, you can see before the balls played which forward will be taking it in, you dont need to even think of tackles one and two it's not that hard !! Fekka does a great job hitting the line and makeing yards it's hard when the defenders are set, one reason he gets knackered so quick it's the same reason Hock and lockers loose the ball is the way they have to take it in, in effect they are trying too hard or should I say having too because of the poor structure .

It is. With no dumy running, no ball work our forwards play v set defenders all the time. They shuld be in gaps or unning at stetched defenders and then they would be able to offload far better.

Re Feka. He is crying out for a Wigan player simply to run alongside him and give the opposition somebody else to cover but also give him the opportunity to pass as he gets close to the defensive line and ucks defenrs in.

: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:31 pm  

windy wrote:

Its just my opinion, don't actually know who the official MoM was

After Eamon I would have chosen Max

Feka was MOM.

: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:38 pm  

Charlie Seeling wrote:

It is. With no dumy running, no ball work our forwards play v set defenders all the time. They shuld be in gaps or unning at stetched defenders and then they would be able to offload far better.

Re Feka. He is crying out for a Wigan player simply to run alongside him and give the opposition somebody else to cover but also give him the opportunity to pass as he gets close to the defensive line and ucks defenrs in.

Can you just imagine how good he could be if coached well , I would love to see him out wide near the oppositions line instead of under the sticks in heavy traffic , or from the scrum 10m out just one little bit of inventive play would not be too much to ask , a drive with a half on his shoulder just so defenders had to think it's not much to ask , if only the defenders had to think if Hock or Fekka would get the ball off Lulu it would give all three so much more opportunities