Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:12 pm
Jukesays wrote:
I agree about Burgess
The club should have had all the facts, and whether they did ot didn't too their homework the end result was very very poor, so they got it wrong.
He either shouldn't have been bought or we should have dealt with his condition a whole different way to get more (something) out of him
If we didn't have a plan to deal with it then its very poor
We have a new strength and conditioning person in this year, maybe that tells us the answer to the above. We have a new coach etc, maybe that points to something ?
Maybe IL/KR dropped a huge B*****k ???
I think the disagreement above is over the Powell/Thornley/Zak situations and despite them all beig completely different scenarios some people want answers, some are prepared to wait and have the opinion that there will be reasons why some things are known and others aren't.
I'm in the latter, IL said they'd signed Thornley, (Whether it's a good signingnis nitnthe point here) why it's not been announced I'm not particularly bothered about, but I can understand why some people are confused.
Some have the opinion if IL said its happening hen why not announce it
I have an opinion that he probably shouldn't have announced it at the secret 120 Mugs fans forum, but there's probably some legal I needs dotting or t needs crossing and they may have to what ilunti Nov 1st (which I believe is when existing contracts expire) to do so.
But I'm not going to go into complete critical overdrive for the ske of it
Zak situation the same, they were open at the forum that there was an issue, they explained what they were trying to do, and until I hear any different it is what it is.
Yeah, I suppose I do wonder whats going on, but end of the day it will be a complicated situation, and I question both parties for various reasons
I'm not sure it in Zaks best interest to be back round ponte carlo, I'm sure jonh and others will have a more informed opinion than mine
But I also think that when we took Zak on we knew what we were getting, I think we've dealt with it petty well so far, but the fact he wants to go, is it solely down to his partner and the commute, or does he not fancy the new coaching regime. In so.e ways I hope it's a bit of both
I hope its his partner wanting to go bit bit him
I also hope that if he has any concerns then the clubs new coaching set up is asking difficult commitment questions that are making him consider twice if he isn't 100% committed
It's a complicated set of circumstances and one that IL/KR have to admit they've played a significant part in ending up here.
IL is still the owner though, and past issues can't be used as a weight around new decisions moving forward in the same way people didn't forgive him for some errors in 19/20/21 and gave him no credit for the previous 10 years.
The club should have had all the facts, and whether they did ot didn't too their homework the end result was very very poor, so they got it wrong.
He either shouldn't have been bought or we should have dealt with his condition a whole different way to get more (something) out of him
If we didn't have a plan to deal with it then its very poor
We have a new strength and conditioning person in this year, maybe that tells us the answer to the above. We have a new coach etc, maybe that points to something ?
Maybe IL/KR dropped a huge B*****k ???
I think the disagreement above is over the Powell/Thornley/Zak situations and despite them all beig completely different scenarios some people want answers, some are prepared to wait and have the opinion that there will be reasons why some things are known and others aren't.
I'm in the latter, IL said they'd signed Thornley, (Whether it's a good signingnis nitnthe point here) why it's not been announced I'm not particularly bothered about, but I can understand why some people are confused.
Some have the opinion if IL said its happening hen why not announce it
I have an opinion that he probably shouldn't have announced it at the secret 120 Mugs fans forum, but there's probably some legal I needs dotting or t needs crossing and they may have to what ilunti Nov 1st (which I believe is when existing contracts expire) to do so.
But I'm not going to go into complete critical overdrive for the ske of it
Zak situation the same, they were open at the forum that there was an issue, they explained what they were trying to do, and until I hear any different it is what it is.
Yeah, I suppose I do wonder whats going on, but end of the day it will be a complicated situation, and I question both parties for various reasons
I'm not sure it in Zaks best interest to be back round ponte carlo, I'm sure jonh and others will have a more informed opinion than mine
But I also think that when we took Zak on we knew what we were getting, I think we've dealt with it petty well so far, but the fact he wants to go, is it solely down to his partner and the commute, or does he not fancy the new coaching regime. In so.e ways I hope it's a bit of both
I hope its his partner wanting to go bit bit him
I also hope that if he has any concerns then the clubs new coaching set up is asking difficult commitment questions that are making him consider twice if he isn't 100% committed
It's a complicated set of circumstances and one that IL/KR have to admit they've played a significant part in ending up here.
IL is still the owner though, and past issues can't be used as a weight around new decisions moving forward in the same way people didn't forgive him for some errors in 19/20/21 and gave him no credit for the previous 10 years.
Again, good post. Nice to see a bit of balance that there's good and bad stuff happening at the club. It's right to point out too - there is good stuff going on and it's important to say that.
We aren't actually that far away on our opinions on this. I'm probably just a little more impatient at the min. I'll hold my hands up tho and say I'm grouping it all under the issues I have with the club's communications. That might not be fair, but I do think we stink at it.
