Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:03 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

More space in Union, he'd rip them apart in open play.

More space in Union? Where?

There isn't room to breath around the middle of the field and the ball hardly ever reaches the edges. They can pretend they're enjoying themselves all they like but players like Joel and Eastmond must be bored to tears. The money's great and they may become famous but their enjoyment on the field can't be the same.

I actually think Tomkins would be very average in Union.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:10 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

More space in Union, he'd rip them apart in open play.

with the 4 extra players on the pitch?

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:05 pm  

tugglesf78 wrote:

Hmmmm

Who invited this whopper?

Ok I'll humour you. Which of the facts in my post would you take issue with?

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:11 pm  

Allez wrote:

Ok I'll humour you. Which of the facts in my post would you take issue with?

Bowen obviously isn't "young".

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:13 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

My fear is Bowen to Wire we us taking Hodgson...

Worlds worst rumour 2013.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:15 pm  

Allez wrote:

Ok I'll humour you. Which of the facts in my post would you take issue with?

The part saying we've signed Bowen could be a starting point. You don't know that do you?!!

The incorrect names of players being used?

The sarcastic dig at Wigans youth production line....the most fruitful youth production system in Britain and one of, if not the best in the world?

These aren't 'facts' are they? What a s*ite post.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:14 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

More space in Union? Where?

There isn't room to breath around the middle of the field and the ball hardly ever reaches the edges. They can pretend they're enjoying themselves all they like but players like Joel and Eastmond must be bored to tears. The money's great and they may become famous but their enjoyment on the field can't be the same.

I actually think Tomkins would be very average in Union.

There's definitely more space in union. Despite there being 2 extra men on the pitch the breakdown area takes up a minimum of 5 players from a defensive line, often more. This leaves less men to cover the same amount of space as the breakdown area would only be the size of a PTB.

Having played both codes for good lengths of time and playing in positions where exploiting space was key, I can definitively say there is far more space to attack in Union.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:21 pm  

But if you get caught and isolated you usually cough up the ball, usually the reason they don't head for the spaces.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:31 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

There's definitely more space in union. Despite there being 2 extra men on the pitch the breakdown area takes up a minimum of 5 players from a defensive line, often more. This leaves less men to cover the same amount of space as the breakdown area would only be the size of a PTB.

Having played both codes for good lengths of time and playing in positions where exploiting space was key, I can definitively say there is far more space to attack in Union.

Why are there so few try's then? Why has Eastmond hardly made a break in his time in Union when that is his game?

I watch a bit of Union but I appreciate you know far more then myself. Is it that there's more space in Union but they're dreadful at exploiting it? There's hardly any clean breaks, tackle busts, the ball hardly ever gets played wide which is where this space looks to be to me.

I watch a game of Union and there doesn't look an inch to move in the middle yet that's where 95%+ of the game is played. I suppose I'm answering my own questions here.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:43 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Why are there so few try's then? Why has Eastmond hardly made a break in his time in Union when that is his game?

I watch a bit of Union but I appreciate you know far more then myself. Is it that there's more space in Union but they're dreadful at exploiting it? There's hardly any clean breaks, tackle busts, the ball hardly ever gets played wide which is where this space looks to be to me.

I watch a game of Union and there doesn't look an inch to move in the middle yet that's where 95%+ of the game is played. I suppose I'm answering my own questions here.

There are a lot of reasons for the lack of tries, I think, but one major one has to be the relatively high value of penalty and drop goals.