Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:26 pm  

KingRoss11 wrote:

A lot of what has happened to us.......

Can't disagree with this at all. I hoped we'd have a replacement for Deacs soon after he left, but it quickly became obvious we were doing stuff on the cheap. One question (rhetorical) is though: who's got the whip hand? Is it IL refusing to splash the cash, or is it Rads and/or Wane persuading him that we can cope. Is there anyone with a rugby brain actually looking at the bigger picture?

I suspect it'll be Wire & Hull in the final (we'll never hear the last of it if the Stainers get there & do one, having written them off several times over the year) and then perhaps we can have an announcement.

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:18 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Yet you mention six of them in your post!
And just out of curiosity how many times have those seven taken the field together this season.

Personally I think a coach only has a "shelf life" of five or six seasons unless the playing staff changes by large amounts over that time.

You are one of the most fervent Wigan fans without a doubt Rogues and your opinions are very well thought out and balanced
So where do you stand in this Wane out debate and what are your opinions regarding how our club has regressed since his appointment?

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:41 pm  

21-12 wrote:

What we have established in this thread is that everyone wants him gone but nobody has come up with a valid replacement, at all.

Adrian Lam would be my first choice as our next head coach with Lockers as his assistant
Thoughts guys?

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:41 pm  

Anglesey Warrior wrote:

Trent Robinson?

The point I was making, is that the "replacement" has to be someone is that is available, wants to come to Wigan, and has a credible CV. Not sure why some people assume Australian coaches will drop everything and come to Wigan. Theres loads to take into account, they mave have a young settled family in OZ etc etc.

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:42 pm  

trent wrote:

Adrian Lam would be my first choice as our next head coach with Lockers as his assistant
Thoughts guys?

Has Lam actually achieved anything coaching wise? Or are people just convinced because he played for us? Genuine question.

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:52 pm  

trent wrote:

You are one of the most fervent Wigan fans without a doubt Rogues and your opinions are very well thought out and balanced
So where do you stand in this Wane out debate and what are your opinions regarding how our club has regressed since his appointment?

As I stated above, I think his time has run BUT I wouldn't have a major problem with ONE more year. To be fair to him he's been dealt a real poor hand this year with the injury situation and it's a credit to him for Wigan to be where they are (look at Leeds who have had similar problems) Should we put a director of rugby above him as Salford did? Certainly the "style" of rugby has been poor to watch, but is that down to Wane or the constant changes he's had to make? I honestly don't know, and "our group" have spent hours debating it, without resolution I've had an hours phone conversation today on the subject!!
I love the club and the game in general.

IL and KR have big decisions to make, I trust they feel the same way about Wigan RLFC as I do and have/will do the right thing.

On your point of regression, in Wanes first season we played a far more expansive game than we ever did under Maguire. Is it a case of players win games, coaches win them.

As you probably know I watch a lot of Wigan junior scholarship/ academy games and would hate us to follow the Hull model of eight overseas players in the squad, it bothers ME as an RL fan that has been allowed to happen. Maybe that's for a different discussion, but I believe it's related.

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:55 pm  

I think we should merge our academy with Saints so we can spend a load of money elsewhere in the club and sign 5 players from the NRL. It works for some.

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:10 pm  

21-12 wrote:

Has Lam actually achieved anything coaching wise? Or are people just convinced because he played for us? Genuine question.

Mal Meninga certainly rates him as he has had Lammy in his Queensland and now his Australian back room staff
Lammy deserves a shot as head coach and as everyone knows it's not always easy to get that opportunity in the NRL

So IMO he would jump at the chance of coaching Wigan Warriors

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:02 pm  

21-12 wrote:

The point I was making, is that the "replacement" has to be someone is that is available, wants to come to Wigan, and has a credible CV. Not sure why some people assume Australian coaches will drop everything and come to Wigan. Theres loads to take into account, they mave have a young settled family in OZ etc etc.

But no-one can know what any coach would think about the prospect of coaching Wigan, not just those in Australia. We can only speculate on potential targets.

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:04 am  

Wigg'n wrote:

I think we should merge our academy with Saints so we can spend a load of money elsewhere in the club and sign 5 players from the NRL. It works for some.

You do realise that we run an Under 23's team too?