Re: v Hull FC : Mon May 03, 2021 5:49 am  

Pie_Eyter wrote:

Still doesn't make it racist though Pemps. I have a lot of Irish heritage and i get called a travelling friend etc even though my Wigan accent is as broad as anybody's. I don't get offended by it. The same way as if somebody calls me a 'pie eating c**t' which happens practically every day. Savellio has implied that he has been racially abused when he actually hasn't. If there is any ban forthcoming then it should be for him for creating a media storm and descending a lynch mob this way. Everybody jumps on the race card at every opportunity when there hasn't even been any racism but when it reversed nobody bats an eyelid. I watched something a couple of weeks ago 'The great british sewing bee' (yes i am forced to) and an Asian woman on there said "just be confident, pretend you are a single straight white man" Brushed under the carpet after complaints. Anthony Joshua on a BLM rally "Hit them (White people) where it hurts, invest only in black run businesses" Loads of complaints, brushed under the carpet. Say something completely innocent against a non-white person and the media go into meltdown. The whole woke, snowflake, politically correct and easily offended folk in this country have turned it into an embarrassment.

Wow.

If Clubb says “you silly spiffing chap” fine. He’s essentially saying he’s a “spiffing chap” because he’s silly.

Clubb (allegedly) says “you silly Polynesian spiffing chap” which in turn means he’s essentially saying Savellio is a “silly spiffing chap” because he’s Polynesian.

If someone says to you “you silly English spiffing chap” some may find it offensive, some may not but it’s down to your own perception. Do you perceive it to be hate related because you’re English? If so that can make it a racially aggravated offence. Just because you don’t perceive it to be racist, which I’m astounded you don’t, doesn’t mean it isn’t.

You know it’s ironic you’re calling everyone else ‘woke, snowflakes, politically correct and easily offended’ when you sit there and have the gall to get offended at The Great British Sewing Bee. A single straight white man hasn’t faced discrimination, isn’t given abuse online about his skin colour or sexual orientation, doesn’t face barriers for work/leisure. I never did, not once but I know of a black friend who has multiple times.

As it happens I was frustrated with AJ’s comments, especially as a fan who pays to see all his fights but on the flip side I can completely understand why. Racism is rife in our communities. It’s online everyday, simply look at any post a BAME sports player puts on social media and I guarantee there’s a racist response. Society has sat back and done nothing about it except our fingers in our ears and pretend it’s not happening. Do I think sometimes the race card is played unnecessarily? Absolutely. Just like you playing the ‘woke snowflake’ card.

‘The whole woke, snowflake, politically correct and easily offended folk in this country have turned it into an embarrassment’? Nah, it’s people like you happy to live in a world of discrimination and racism at every level.

Re: v Hull FC : Mon May 03, 2021 9:46 am  

100% Warrior wrote:

Wow.

If Clubb says “you silly spiffing chap” fine. He’s essentially saying he’s a “spiffing chap” because he’s silly.

Clubb (allegedly) says “you silly Polynesian spiffing chap” which in turn means he’s essentially saying Savellio is a “silly spiffing chap” because he’s Polynesian.

If someone says to you “you silly English spiffing chap” some may find it offensive, some may not but it’s down to your own perception. Do you perceive it to be hate related because you’re English? If so that can make it a racially aggravated offence. Just because you don’t perceive it to be racist, which I’m astounded you don’t, doesn’t mean it isn’t.

You know it’s ironic you’re calling everyone else ‘woke, snowflakes, politically correct and easily offended’ when you sit there and have the gall to get offended at The Great British Sewing Bee. A single straight white man hasn’t faced discrimination, isn’t given abuse online about his skin colour or sexual orientation, doesn’t face barriers for work/leisure. I never did, not once but I know of a black friend who has multiple times.

As it happens I was frustrated with AJ’s comments, especially as a fan who pays to see all his fights but on the flip side I can completely understand why. Racism is rife in our communities. It’s online everyday, simply look at any post a BAME sports player puts on social media and I guarantee there’s a racist response. Society has sat back and done nothing about it except our fingers in our ears and pretend it’s not happening. Do I think sometimes the race card is played unnecessarily? Absolutely. Just like you playing the ‘woke snowflake’ card.

‘The whole woke, snowflake, politically correct and easily offended folk in this country have turned it into an embarrassment’? Nah, it’s people like you happy to live in a world of discrimination and racism at every level.

Well put, I just looked at the post and thought we’re do I start.

Re: v Hull FC : Mon May 03, 2021 11:58 am  

It's ironic that the people who like to talk about snowflakes and people being easily offended are so often easily offended by absolutely nothing themselves. The Great British Sewing Bee

I agree there are often double standards regarding the sort of insults that are acceptable and the ones that are not. I also agree that some people seem to look for offence in the most mundane things these days. However, if you really don't understand why racial slurs aimed at black or Asian people are more offensive than the ones aimed at whites, then I would say you are a lost cause at this point. White, straight, middle aged men might be the butt of a few jokes occasionally, or sometimes unfairly stereotyped. But it's not even remotely comparable to the discrimination and hate that many minorities have suffered, and in many cases continue to suffer.

Re: v Hull FC : Mon May 03, 2021 12:29 pm  

https://youtu.be/2LxpeIULvPA Eye opening chat between Ian Wright and Alan Shearer that's currently doing the rounds on social media. How must it feel to be on the receiving end of messages like this on a daily basis?

https://youtu.be/2LxpeIULvPA Eye opening chat between Ian Wright and Alan Shearer that's currently doing the rounds on social media. How must it feel to be on the receiving end of messages like this on a daily basis?

Re: v Hull FC : Mon May 03, 2021 12:45 pm  

MattyB wrote:

https://youtu.be/2LxpeIULvPA

Eye opening chat between Ian Wright and Alan Shearer that's currently doing the rounds on social media.

How must it feel to be on the receiving end of messages like this on a daily basis?

Only as bad as calling someone a pie eater. Honest

Re: v Hull FC : Mon May 03, 2021 2:23 pm  

Connor out on Saturday with a one game ban. A bit surprised he was only charged with a Grade B - it looked a deliberate high shot to me on Hardaker (plus the forearm to the face in the 6th minute).

Clubb charged with a Grade F offence - tribunal tomorrow.

Re: v Hull FC : Mon May 03, 2021 2:28 pm  

The Connor ban will go down like a fart in a lift over Hull way. I’m sure they’ll appeal it but you have to wonder what goes on in the lads head when Hardaker making a comment saying he thinks he’s the best fullback throws him in to such a spin.

Re: v Hull FC : Mon May 03, 2021 2:29 pm  

MadDogg wrote:

Connor out on Saturday with a one game ban. A bit surprised he was only charged with a Grade B - it looked a deliberate high shot to me on Hardaker (plus the forearm to the face in the 6th minute).

Clubb charged with a Grade F offence - tribunal tomorrow.

If found guilty carries at least eight matches or a suspension period.

Re: v Hull FC : Mon May 03, 2021 2:32 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

If found guilty carries at least eight matches or a suspension period.

And if he has said it he will deserve all 8 of them.

Re: v Hull FC : Mon May 03, 2021 2:47 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

And if he has said it he will deserve all 8 of them.

If he has said it I hope the club send him packing