Re: Matty Bowen : Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:46 pm  

DaveO wrote:

Well if we do need this from him it must be because we have shipped out too many players who would take over the leadership role when Lockers is out.

Do we still have the leadership team idea first introduced by Madge? If so who is in it? If not who would you suggest was in it? I don't mean who you might think ought to be in it because just like Bowen they are experienced players but who do you think has the attitude to be a member?

Yes we have shipped out too much experience. That was evident yesterday. Micky Mac was a headless chicken and certainly NOT captaincy material.

The leadership idea was still in place last season, but I've not heard anything this year.

Leadership contenders - Lockers, Matty Smith, Faz and I think Clubb is improving rapidly at prop. I believe that SW reckons he has leadership potential. It is a bit thin though, granted.

Re: Matty Bowen : Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:57 pm  

I think the fact that we have lost our 2 vice captains (TL and Sam) in consecutive seasons isn't really helping the cause in this regard.

[DaveO]

Re: Matty Bowen : Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:59 pm  

Aboveusonlypie wrote:

The leadership idea was still in place last season, but I've not heard anything this year.

I thought so but like yourself I have not heard about it this season.

Leadership contenders - Lockers, Matty Smith, Faz and I think Clubb is improving rapidly at prop. I believe that SW reckons he has leadership potential. It is a bit thin though, granted.

That is pretty telling IMO. It is still worth doing again though especially if Lockers is going to limp his way through the season.

Re: Matty Bowen : Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:03 pm  

The leadership team is still in existence. I've read references to Micky Mac and Faz both being part of it this season.

Re: Matty Bowen : Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:14 pm  

One thing you notice without Lockers is the team is very quiet vocally, with him there he directs play and keeps everyone in order. That is a massive thing to lose and you need someone with a good rugby brain to fill in the spot, for me I'd go with Matty Smith but take kicking duties of him. I personally think that side of his game is a mental block now, we saw at stains he could kick but those misses must be effecting him.

Re: Matty Bowen : Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:20 pm  

I thought he had a really solid game. Looked a lot better than huddersfield and Wcc. He just needs some time on the pitch to get used to how we play as well as the super league. It was a dodgy bounce for the try he gave away, didn't see the impedance that some have talked about, and his try was really well taken.

Our biggest problem at the moment is a kicker, we will struggle a hell of a lot this season without those 2s going in every time and it cost us big yesterday

Re: Matty Bowen : Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:22 pm  

Kaii wrote:

One thing you notice without Lockers is the team is very quiet vocally, with him there he directs play and keeps everyone in order. That is a massive thing to lose and you need someone with a good rugby brain to fill in the spot, for me I'd go with Matty Smith but take kicking duties of him. I personally think that side of his game is a mental block now, we saw at stains he could kick but those misses must be effecting him.

The misses didn't affect him enough to convert from the touchline and drop a goal with two players on top of him, all in the last couple of minutes.

Who knows he may take a lot of confidence from that and (quite literally) kick on?

Re: Matty Bowen : Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:28 pm  

Aboveusonlypie wrote:

The misses didn't affect him enough to convert from the touchline and drop a goal with two players on top of him, all in the last couple of minutes.

Who knows he may take a lot of confidence from that and (quite literally) kick on?

Hope you're right, Matty Smith imo has been a great player for us

Re: Matty Bowen : Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:17 pm  

Maybe I don't understand the rules properly but wasn't Bowen taken out by a Cas player when defending the kick that led to a try?

Re: Matty Bowen : Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:37 pm  

"Solid game", "did alright", "slight improvement".

Yes, just the comments you want to hear about your big money signing

Regards

King James