Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:03 am  

Hoffman will be replaced by Hock who is also a left sided 2nd row.
Coley, replacement remains to be seen but Fielden is back next year with Prescott, Lima, Mossop, Dudson & Crosby.
Should Deacon retire I'd go with Mellor. Played SL for Quins earlier this year and was told when he played v Saints he was excellent. If d/r is to mean anything then Mellor and Crosby should be in the first team next year.
Centre is the main problem. Carmont in his last year in 2012, Joel still learning and will be next year if he stays at 3. An experienced centre needs to be signed for 2012 and most definately for 2013. Who and where from, who knows?

[DaveO]

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:09 am  

Paul Youane wrote:

As i understand it Wigan have no room left on the cap for next season due to the structure of all the long term deals that have been awarded over the last couple of seasons.

I think Wigan's recruitment will be restricted to the three from Crusaders and Lauaki from Hull.

If that is true then not being able to retain O'Carroll for this reason is not very good.

Before his injury he looked the more natural prop than Prescott. He ran the ball in harder and straighter and never took a backward step. That is no slight on Prescott because he as come on leaps and bounds this season but that is just how it was back then IMO. Pre-injury of the two I'd have said O'Carroll was the brighter prospect. There is no doubt in my mind that while the injury didn't end his RL career it has ended his Wigan one and I think that is a mistake by the club. Coley is leaving next season and it is not yet clear that Hock will fit into the the way the team plays or where he will play. We also have Mossop who seemingly has a bit of a problem with his shoulder which has gone at least twice.

I was looking forward next season to see O'Carroll challenge for a place in the front row and I reckon he was more than capable of doing so. So this idea he would be 6th choice is not right IMO because in theory players are picked on form and he is easily good enough to give Prescott a run for his money.

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:17 am  

Replacing O'Barrell with Lauaki is stupid. Unless his injury has had an involvement.

[Pemps]

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:18 am  

Wigg'n wrote:

Replacing O'Barrell with Lauaki is stupid. Unless his injury has had an involvement.

If indeed we have done. By all accounts we've signed 2 props from Crusaders so I really can't imagine we've signed Lauaki as well. 3 props? nah.

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:26 am  

Always tried hard, but ultimately I think we have better options a head of him and it's no surprise he'd want to see more first team action.

[DaveO]

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:31 am  

Father Ted wrote:

Hoffman will be replaced by Hock who is also a left sided 2nd row.
Coley, replacement remains to be seen but Fielden is back next year with Prescott, Lima, Mossop, Dudson & Crosby.
Should Deacon retire I'd go with Mellor. Played SL for Quins earlier this year and was told when he played v Saints he was excellent. If d/r is to mean anything then Mellor and Crosby should be in the first team next year.
Centre is the main problem. Carmont in his last year in 2012, Joel still learning and will be next year if he stays at 3. An experienced centre needs to be signed for 2012 and most definately for 2013. Who and where from, who knows?

I am already feeling sorry for Wane. Coley, Hoffman (he is better than Hock IMO) and O'Carroll out. Lauaki in plus Thomas (?) and possibly other Crusader rejects? It's like when Millward could only sign the likes of Jordan James and that other forward player who's name I forget.

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:35 am  

DaveO wrote:

I am already feeling sorry for Wane. Coley, Hoffman (he is better than Hock IMO) and O'Carroll out. Lauaki in plus Thomas (?) and possibly other Crusader rejects? It's like when Millward could only sign the likes of Jordan James and that other forward player who's name I forget.

Botham and Jonkers

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:37 am  

DaveO wrote:

I am already feeling sorry for Wane.

Will it be his problem?

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:46 am  

Pemps wrote:

If indeed we have done. By all accounts we've signed 2 props from Crusaders so I really can't imagine we've signed Lauaki as well. 3 props? nah.

Lauaki was signed quite a while ago I think.

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:48 am  

Wandering Warrior wrote:

My thoughts exactly. We cant exactly criticise until we know who is replacing him

True, but so far it does not look good.

Andy Coley, Ryan Hoffman, Ben Davies, Eamon O'carroll, Ben Cross and Paul Deacon lost.

Gil Dudson, Epalahame Lauaki, Ben Flower and Gareth Thomas gained.