: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:15 pm  

ted
the players brought into the team recently have been NOBLES choice.This has been stated more than once.

others have been here before Lenegan and have contracts.

as i have stated before there where many things wrong with our club ( on and off the pitch) before Lenegan took over and sadly its taking time to correct.

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:18 pm  

elliegg wrote:

ted
the players brought into the team recently have been NOBLES choice.This has been stated more than once.

others have been here before Lenegan and have contracts.

as i have stated before there where many things wrong with our club ( on and off the pitch) before Lenegan took over and sadly its taking time to correct.

That is no excuse for the fact that our performances are worsening every season. Why are we so boring to watch, win or lose?

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:21 pm  

jimmy
i would think our team game plan........if we have one........are the reason we are failing to perform

i was told a recent past player had words with nobby about his tactics and they had a bit of a slanging match.

this player went home

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:30 pm  

elliegg wrote:

jimmy
i would think our team game plan........if we have one........are the reason we are failing to perform

i was told a recent past player had words with nobby about his tactics and they had a bit of a slanging match.

this player went home

Well Nobby tells me our training includes all sorts of set plays and dummy runners but the players throw it out of the window come match day, so I don't know what to believe about our tactics. I am firmly of the opinion, however, that there have been mistakes in team selection that must rest on his shoulders.

I for one await his next team selection with great interest since he clearly intimated that some players had to go.

[Pemps]

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:53 pm  

jinkin jimmy wrote:

Well Nobby tells me our training includes all sorts of set plays and dummy runners but the players throw it out of the window come match day, so I don't know what to believe about our tactics. I am firmly of the opinion, however, that there have been mistakes in team selection that must rest on his shoulders.

I for one await his next team selection with great interest since he clearly intimated that some players had to go.

If players aren't playing to instruction, then drop them. If it's half a dozen players not doing as they're told, drop them. It'll send a message out to the players.

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:55 pm  

Pemps wrote:

If players aren't playing to instruction, then drop them. If it's half a dozen players not doing as they're told, drop them. It'll send a message out to the players.

Agreed. It's not about results, it's about attitude and performance. If he dropped a few and the new team stuck together - whatever the result - I would back them - and him - 100%.

[Pemps]

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:58 pm  

jinkin jimmy wrote:

Agreed. It's not about results, it's about attitude and performance. If he dropped a few and the new team stuck together - whatever the result - I would back them - and him - 100%.

Absolutely. Last season and this season we've played boring rugby. If Nobby is addressing this and bringing set plays in, as promised at the fans forum, then great. If the players aren't putting these plays in motion on match day then there's something wrong. Are they not doing it because they're incapable, under pressure, don't want to? Whatever the reason, it needs resolving.

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:18 pm  

the thing was is getting on my nerves the most is where not getting battered, ok where not winning but where putting points on the board,

rl : Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:52 pm  

We also have around 40% of the SC on four or five players.
Many of the recent signings were to stack up numbers as it was a small squad. A lot of the players are simply not good enough for a club that wants to get to the top of the League.
Only when some of these vast earners come off contract can we re-negotiate for the ones we want to keep and replace the others.
If Noble did depart then who would we get?
Cullen - not good enough? Hanley - A self publicist of the highest order.
Neither are suitable for Wigan.
Stick with Noble and see who he identifies for 2010.
In the meantime IL should bring forward his possible mid season signing to an early season arrival.

Re: rl : Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:59 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

We also have around 40% of the SC on four or five players.
Many of the recent signings were to stack up numbers as it was a small squad. A lot of the players are simply not good enough for a club that wants to get to the top of the League.
Only when some of these vast earners come off contract can we re-negotiate for the ones we want to keep and replace the others.
If Noble did depart then who would we get?
Cullen - not good enough? Hanley - A self publicist of the highest order.
Neither are suitable for Wigan.
Stick with Noble and see who he identifies for 2010.
In the meantime IL should bring forward his possible mid season signing to an early season arrival.

Bloody hell. Somebody else who has access to player wages. Or did IL say this at a fans forum or something?