Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed May 19, 2021 9:34 pm  

hengirl wrote:

But it would only be a shrewd signing if it came off but there's no evidence to support that Hill could be the answer, to me he is well past his best

You can say that about every signing, hence why the wolfs are still waiting for that first league title since Moses was a lad.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed May 19, 2021 9:45 pm  

hengirl wrote:

But it would only be a shrewd signing if it came off but there's no evidence to support that Hill could be the answer, to me he is well past his best

I don’t think any one player is the answer as such, but think the point people in favour of offering Hill a deal is that he would be part of the answer at the right price.

There have been a number of players that have joined Wigan way past their best but have improved us and complimented what we have.

I’d be open to it as part of a series of signings that could improve what we currently have.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed May 19, 2021 10:23 pm  

I'd feel a lot more confident about Hill than I would an NRL player of the same age. I don't think he's coming but I'd be made up if we did pick him up.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu May 20, 2021 4:50 am  

I think we all agree we need a couple of props, they don’t (although it would be nice) need to be a Walmsley or a Thompson but they do need to be established and experienced to complement our youth. We don’t need ‘impact’ props more grafters while can play decent minutes.

What I find amusing is any name proposed is not good enough/past it etc etc.

Hill is exactly the type of player we need, vastly experienced and still able to put in a shift, makes decent yards and will be able to help the likes of Harvard, Byrne and Partington develop.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu May 20, 2021 6:46 am  

Grimmy wrote:

I'd feel a lot more confident about Hill than I would an NRL player of the same age. I don't think he's coming but I'd be made up if we did pick him up.

There’s not actually been a rumour of it as far as I know. I mentioned him as an option I’d personally look at but that’s not based on anything other than thinking it could be a realistic chance if the club did decide to go after him.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu May 20, 2021 12:02 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

Does seem a bit weird that we have (allegedly) one of the best doctors in world rugby that misdiagnosed Burgess' problem, even though it was widely known and publicised by Burgess himself that he had an 'arthritic hip'.

Back on our current "middles". Phenomenal performance from our incredibly mobile and skillful forwards on Monday against a truly World Class pack from Leigh:
Clark - 7 carries, 50m, 0 busts, 0 offloads
Singleton - 6 carries, 42m, 2 busts, 0 offloads
Partington - 5 carries, 30m, 0 busts, 0 offloads
Byrne - 9 carries, 62m, 0 busts, 0 offloads
Smithies - 6 carries, 47m, 0 busts, 0 offloads
Havard - 13 carries, 95m, 0 busts, 0 offloads

I think this highlights we have fundamental issues with our tactics as well as the obvious quality questions.

We often catch the ball stood still / barely running
We often catch the ball way behind the gain line
We often run in isolation so it makes it easier for the defence

Until we fix the above, although better props will improve things, it will not be miraculous.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu May 20, 2021 8:31 pm  

I repeat; I am astounded Hill is seriously being touted as a good signing. I mean seriously? Are our props that bad we’re now up for signing one of the leagues worst? Each to their own I suppose but it’s a 1million percent no from me.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu May 20, 2021 9:30 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

I repeat; I am astounded Hill is seriously being touted as a good signing. I mean seriously? Are our props that bad we’re now up for signing one of the leagues worst? Each to their own I suppose but it’s a 1million percent no from me.

Just look at the stats.

Leagues worst? Please.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu May 20, 2021 9:38 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

I repeat; I am astounded Hill is seriously being touted as a good signing. I mean seriously? Are our props that bad we’re now up for signing one of the leagues worst? Each to their own I suppose but it’s a 1million percent no from me.

This league is pretty dire at the minute and that is probably why Hill is still one of the leagues better props. I wouldn’t have him top 5 like he used to be but I’d struggle to name many more than about 10-15 who are better than him.

Our props must be bad enough because none are performing to his level at the minute, literally not one. The two young lads in Byrne and Havard are showing signs that they could become top props but the others are so far off Chris Hill (even Chris Hill you may say) it’s pretty scary.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri May 21, 2021 5:48 am  

NSW wrote:

Just look at the stats.

Leagues worst? Please.

I don’t need to. I work with a lot of Warrington supporters, none of whom have anything good to say about Hill. Just cos he’s had 5/6 half decent games doesn’t mean he’s a signing we should be making. Clubb had a similar run but he’s still as p1ss poor as he was before. I’d be rubbing my hands together and laughing at the thought of Hill going to Wigan if I were a Warrington fan.