Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:27 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

Funny that I'm sure his contract with Wigan was for five years.


(although obviously we are all fully aware that he has signed for NZ Warriors so that five year contract is irrelevant).

What annoys me is that Sam and IL have repeatedly told us he can't speak to the NRL or Union for 3 years yet 2 years into the agreement of that clause he has decided to field offers from left right and centre, I just wish the club and Sam would have some decency to the people who have lined his pocket.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:33 pm  

Tomkins is meant to have a 2 year contract with the NZ Warriors that would take him through until October 2015 and the Union world cup starts in September 2015 so it's a bit of a non story tbh. If he does go to Union after the NZ Warriors his first game would probably be a league fixture around Christmas time in 2015 and he'd have to wait 4 years for a crack at a World Cup.

I'm not saying he'll be coming back here after the Warriors but he won't be involved in the 2015 Union World Cup

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:37 pm  

Chris Irvine tweeted that union journos were speaking to Sam a few days ago, was waiting for an article like that to appear tbh.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:59 am  

Grimmy wrote:

I'm not saying Goulding's brilliant, even at his best I've never said he should ply for England (as loads of others did) and I was originally sceptical about him being given the 3 shirt last year. I'm just saying I'm not convinced there are many better options out there, it's only worth getting rid of him if we can bring in someone markedly better. As much as I'd like to, we can't just go out and sign an Iro or a Renouf in the current era. We're limited to failed/over the hill NRL players or players from mid-low table SL clubs, who I tend to think are there for a reason more often than not.

I do agree with the body of your point, and I would stick with him until someone better comes along. For me it's in a 'solid yet not great' bracket. I would be always looking for a potential replacement as he's not good enough to be left alone.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:52 am  

TrentBarrett wrote: Sam now wants to play Rugby Union in 2015. “I am not one of these people who is all about league and says union is rubbish,” said Tomkins, who was at Saracens’ ground at Allianz Park on Wednesday as the new ambassador for Shock Doctor, the sports protection range. “Seeing England play at Twickenham in front of tens of thousands of people, that is what would do it for me. "The international scene in rurgby union would be what I would want to get into at some point if I could.” "How players get looked after in union off the field far outweighs league by 10 times.” The next few weeks will be his last in a Wigan shirt for a long time, I just wish he'd stop selling him self at every opportunity and concentrate on Wigan. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/10286811/Wigan-Warriors-rugby-league-star-Sam-Tomkins-keen-to-switch-codes-in-time-for-2015-World-Cup.html Sam Tomkins, the Anakin Skywalker of Rugby. He's been given everything by RL, they changed the salary cap rules granting him a massive contract, gets his own TV show on sky tv and segment on another sky sports how. Clearly painted as the 'golden boy' of league, and yet he comes outs with negative flippant comments about RL, if the golden boy calls the sport which has made him, what's left for us? We are constantly fighting a battle to positively promote RL, this was a kick in the nuts from Sam, wheather he meant it or not. So yes he might want to play Union or the NRL, fair enough, but please Sam, conduct your requests or future plans behind closed doors, and not at the cost of the sport which constantly does all it can to promote you. Is this isn't a just an issue for Wigan, but for RL. Furthermore something needs to be done about his current situation at Wigan, I understand the idea of not announcing him signing for NZW, if he has, but a 'no comment' from the club policy is too old-fashioned. With social media people talk, rumours and 'private deals' are quickly discovered and passed around online, it's about time the club recognised the current climate and did something about this situation, with Sam's comments to boot, it leaves an uneasy feeling with the fans. Additionally there is another angle to this, perhaps Sam was firing a 'Media warning shot' to English RL, 'treat players better, do more or else we will find work elsewhere, NRL or Union', if so I admire his balls, but all he's done is fed the Union boys a meal right out of the mouths of those who look after him and pay his wages.

TrentBarrett wrote: Sam now wants to play Rugby Union in 2015. “I am not one of these people who is all about league and says union is rubbish,” said Tomkins, who was at Saracens’ ground at Allianz Park on Wednesday as the new ambassador for Shock Doctor, the sports protection range. “Seeing England play at Twickenham in front of tens of thousands of people, that is what would do it for me. "The international scene in rurgby union would be what I would want to get into at some point if I could.” "How players get looked after in union off the field far outweighs league by 10 times.” The next few weeks will be his last in a Wigan shirt for a long time, I just wish he'd stop selling him self at every opportunity and concentrate on Wigan. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/10286811/Wigan-Warriors-rugby-league-star-Sam-Tomkins-keen-to-switch-codes-in-time-for-2015-World-Cup.html Sam Tomkins, the Anakin Skywalker of Rugby. He's been given everything by RL, they changed the salary cap rules granting him a massive contract, gets his own TV show on sky tv and segment on another sky sports how. Clearly painted as the 'golden boy' of league, and yet he comes outs with negative flippant comments about RL, if the golden boy calls the sport which has made him, what's left for us? We are constantly fighting a battle to positively promote RL, this was a kick in the nuts from Sam, wheather he meant it or not. So yes he might want to play Union or the NRL, fair enough, but please Sam, conduct your requests or future plans behind closed doors, and not at the cost of the sport which constantly does all it can to promote you. Is this isn't a just an issue for Wigan, but for RL. Furthermore something needs to be done about his current situation at Wigan, I understand the idea of not announcing him signing for NZW, if he has, but a 'no comment' from the club policy is too old-fashioned. With social media people talk, rumours and 'private deals' are quickly discovered and passed around online, it's about time the club recognised the current climate and did something about this situation, with Sam's comments to boot, it leaves an uneasy feeling with the fans. Additionally there is another angle to this, perhaps Sam was firing a 'Media warning shot' to English RL, 'treat players better, do more or else we will find work elsewhere, NRL or Union', if so I admire his balls, but all he's done is fed the Union boys a meal right out of the mouths of those who look after him and pay his wages.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:34 am  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Sam Tomkins, the Anakin Skywalker of Rugby. He's been given everything by RL, they changed the salary cap rules granting him a massive contract, gets his own TV show on sky tv and segment on another sky sports how. Clearly painted as the 'golden boy' of league, and yet he comes outs with negative flippant comments about RL, if the golden boy calls the sport which has made him, what's left for us?
We are constantly fighting a battle to positively promote RL, this was a kick in the nuts from Sam, wheather he meant it or not.

So yes he might want to play Union or the NRL, fair enough, but please Sam, conduct your requests or future plans behind closed doors, and not at the cost of the sport which constantly does all it can to promote you.

Is this isn't a just an issue for Wigan, but for RL. Furthermore something needs to be done about his current situation at Wigan, I understand the idea of not announcing him signing for NZW, if he has, but a 'no comment' from the club policy is too old-fashioned. With social media people talk, rumours and 'private deals' are quickly discovered and passed around online, it's about time the club recognised the current climate and did something about this situation, with Sam's comments to boot, it leaves an uneasy feeling with the fans.

Additionally there is another angle to this, perhaps Sam was firing a 'Media warning shot' to English RL, 'treat players better, do more or else we will find work elsewhere, NRL or Union', if so I admire his balls, but all he's done is fed the Union boys a meal right out of the mouths of those who look after him and pay his wages.

Well said.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:18 am  

Jack Deardem just tweeted that Hock is confirmed as one of the 12 players to be unveiled at Salford today.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:01 pm  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

Jack Deardem just tweeted that Hock is confirmed as one of the 12 players to be unveiled at Salford today.

obviously IL doesn't see salford as a top club.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:30 pm  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

Jack Deardem just tweeted that Hock is confirmed as one of the 12 players to be unveiled at Salford today.

meanwhile, we sign a scout for Cumbria... marvelous

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:32 pm  

Bill Sonny wrote:

meanwhile, we sign a scout for Cumbria... marvelous

are you really saying you would want hock back? lol