: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:42 pm  

king warrior wrote:

So where do we stand with the cap now will hock come off it?

You'd presume so.

Like i said it makes a new coaches job that much tougher and it makes Lenagans task nigh on impossible now!

I don't see where we're going to get a world class coach from let alone the 3 top class players we need.

It's time to focus fully on our youth players.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:43 pm  

Memony wrote:

Chuffin numpty!

Zero tolerance for me, precedent set with Dave Allen, get him sacked and move on.

Culture this, culture that, absolute bunkum.

He got a two year ban.
Hock's 25 going on 26. Two years without rugby coming back at 28 going on 29.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:44 pm  

definately time for mossop to step up, more money available for next year now allowing us to sign myler and a quality prop. no excuses now lenegan get them signed and get hocks contract terminated.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:44 pm  

Bolton_Warrior wrote:

My first thoughts on this were that we should wash our hands of him completely due to him being such a pillock.

However after thinking things through my thoughts are that we should do whatever the RFL hand down which I assume will be a two year ban. For those two years he will be sacked by the club.

Then after the two years peroid if he has shown that he regrets what he has done and if he can prove (by random testing) that he has stayed clean then he can come back on our terms in terms of wages.

As much as people may seem to want him lynched at the moment and I can understand that, I do feel that unless it is something like murder then people deserve a sceond chance. However it would be his 2nd and last chance and after that if he could not learn from this then it would be time to give him up completely.

In the meantime I think it is time to get Lee Mossop back.

Im going to presume that the rugby football league will do all it can to protect the game. Whether that will be protecting a GB Star.

UK Sport will be the ones who will dish out the punishment.

Zero tolerance for any drug related offence.

gareth hock : Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:44 pm  

very sad this I feel sorry for the likes of Mr Hogan and Noble they must feel like packing it all in sometimes

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:44 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

You'd presume so.

Like i said it makes a new coaches job that much tougher and it makes Lenagans task nigh on impossible now!

I don't see where we're going to get a world class coach from let alone the 3 top class players we need.

It's time to focus fully on our youth players.

Does this mean bailey gets a new deal?

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:46 pm  

saints35 bulls0 wrote:

because on the whole, clubs dont want to lose star players.

double standards all round - they will hang a young lad out to dry, but as soon as one of the big boys does something wrong its brushed under the carpet.

Hock is obviously a special needs case for getting caught.

Phil Berry at warrington in 2005, i believe the club didn't even bother to stand by him at any of his hearings, he's quite blase about it on his facebook page *former rugby player:Fooked it upp!*

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:46 pm  

Despite being angry and embarressed I'm actually quite happy to get rid of somebody who brings the culture within the club down. I really hope Gareth Hock is made an example of and I don't care what he does with the rest of his life as long is it is nothing to do with Wigan Rugby League.

I'm sure the players will have had a team meeting and I hope the minority who may have the same urges felt embarressed, scared, frightened and paranoid about the whole situation. I also hope the academy and reserve teams have a serious dicussion and meeting in regards to the situation. Luckily, most of them will be level headed, sensible young professionals but Gareth Hock is a prime example of somebody who has come through the ranks of the club and is potentially going to ruin his life, self respect and credibility.

This could be a massive wake-up call to certain players and one huge step to improving the dramatically fading culture at Wigan Rugby League.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:47 pm  

Tony Catsmith wrote:

Phil Berry at warrington in 2005, i believe the club didn't even bother to stand by him at any of his hearings, he's quite blase about it on his facebook page *former rugby player:Fooked it upp!*

The Cockayne and Cas reserve player is a perfect example. Hull KR stand by first teamer, Cas get rid of reserve.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:48 pm  

Bolton_Warrior wrote:

My first thoughts on this were that we should wash our hands of him completely due to him being such a pillock.

However after thinking things through my thoughts are that we should do whatever the RFL hand down which I assume will be a two year ban. For those two years he will be sacked by the club.

Then after the two years peroid if he has shown that he regrets what he has done and if he can prove (by random testing) that he has stayed clean then he can come back on our terms in terms of wages.

As much as people may seem to want him lynched at the moment and I can understand that, I do feel that unless it is something like murder then people deserve a sceond chance. However it would be his 2nd and last chance and after that if he could not learn from this then it would be time to give him up completely.

In the meantime I think it is time to get Lee Mossop back.

If we sack him he might not want to come back to Wigan, he might get a better offer in 2 years time.

I doubt Hock would think that he would want to repay the Wigan fans that he let down, in 2 years time by playing on a reduced wage. I doubt that even registers in Hock's mind.