Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:38 am  

Just watched post match interview.

Just screams of "baby out with bath water" Brian Noble.

I can't believe we are back in this situation to be honest.

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:48 am  

He has clearly run out of ideas now and knows it, he also knows he has run out of excuses. Fear for his job must be top of his agenda now, after all his stock value has dropped, he was in demand when we won the double, now you'd wonder just who would want him should leave the club?

Every coach has a shelf life at a club, I feel he has passed his now and the club needs new ideas. It's nothing personal, it's about results and entertainment. Performances and attendances are dropping fast and the club need to address it.

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:47 am  

Brick with eyes wrote:

As a bloke I like Shaun Wane , I've spoke to him on a number of occasions , he comes across as a very passionate Wigan rugby league man . However , passion alone can not win games in Superleague . We are totally devoid of ideas in the opposition 20 , and thats where it really matters . We have no shape whatsoever in attack . We have very few dummy runners . The amount of telegraphed drop offs we did tonight was ridiculous , especially when there were no players running lines to cause confusion in the opposition defence . It just doesn't happen . We are so one dimensional and boring it's untrue , and supporters are now getting fed up of it . As fans we want to win games but also be entertained . I take my kids and several of their mates to the matches . A few have already dropped off due to lack of action and entertainment. Losing support must be a worry to the Chairman. It can't go on ......... we need some new blood on the coaching staff . The style of play has to change next season , which means changes need to happen before then or season ticket sales will be a disaster

Great post. I was fuming last night, so deliberately didn't put down what I wanted to say. Your post just about sums things up. Wholesale changes required.

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:06 am  

I'm fed up with hearing all about how many players he hasn't got available. Its like he's the only sports coach in the world who has players who are out injured.

Maybe, just maybe, the injuries are happening because of his coaching methods and tactics.

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:14 am  

IMO the injuries are serving to highlight Wane's inadequacy. We have had probably more than any other club but a good coach gets the best out of his available resources. No one can claim that Wane is doing that. I've resisted for long enough, it's time for a new coach next season.

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:38 am  

Injuries aside, have the team that's been played this season performed to their potential, that is the job of the coach, to get the team performing as well they can. In my opinion we haven't even come close to that, not once.

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:52 am  

Wane must go in my opinion.

But I'll put a different spin on it just for discussions sake. It's been telling that our style of play and attack have been on the decline since Iestyn Harris left, followed by Paul Deacon. We didn't replace them and it's clear to see, the assistants we have in place at the minute are nowhere near the standard of Harris and Deacon and that is a direct correlation to our performances.

That therefore insinuates that Wane was carried by these two and without them, he is utterly clueless. I'd have either and or both Harris and Deacon back as assistant coaches in a heartbeat. Would and should that save Wane? Absolutely not.

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:38 pm  

I said this earlier in the season and will say it again. It's not a criticism of Wane as such but every coach has a shelf life at a single club and Wane has reached his at Wigan. I feel it's time for a change and a new set of ideas to freshen up the side.

Whether that's for next season or the season after would depend on who is available. I don't see the point of sacking Wane at the end of this season unless someone good enough is available to replace him. I'm aware the media have talked about a couple of assistants in Australia who are viewed as potentially very good head coaches, whether they'd be prepared to come over I don't know. This side of the world I'd say only Powell or Betts would be viable options.

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Fri Sep 02, 2016 4:49 pm  

Wigan have got progressively worse each season under wane. 2012 was Wane's best wigan team. Played great rugby at certain stages, and looked to be developing on Maguires good work. Since then it's been steadily worse, despite the 2013 double, which was dare I say, simply abit lucky. Easiest CC run in modern history, and then being comfortably beaten in the grand final until warrington had 3 key players go off injured not to return. It was the exception not the rule as the other seasons have borne out.

Wigan are a turgid team to watch, under wane the game isn't played in the right way both in terms of style, and intent.

Re: If we win nothing AGAIN this year - Wane out? : Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:23 pm  

How John Winder, who was a video analyst few years ago, can proper himself through academy coach to assistant coach in space of 3/4 years is shocking.

I think a complete refresh of personnel is needed and friendships should be put aside