: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:35 pm  

Coventry Warrior! wrote:

Saying drugs is part of everyday is rubbish, its true but it does not make it any better. Gareth Hock is a professional. I dont get high off my face before I go to work or at the weekend.

Some people would give anything to be able to play for Wigan or represent this country, and this numbskull has thrown it all away for some silly thrill.

Why have you got it all wrong here.

You say I say drugs is part of everyday life is rubbish, then you go on to say its true.

Don't localise it to yourself. Somewhere in the UK a deal will be being done as we speak, someone taking drugs as we speak, its part of everyday life. Maybe not for you, but defo for the UK, and for Wigan.

You don't take drugs before work? Did I every suggest Hock took anything before a game? NO, NEVER.

Just because you don't take drugs during the day now means others don't?

Oh come on, surely you're not so naive.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:37 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

I always wonder why, when a club hears strong rumours about a player having a drug problem, they don't carry out their own testing and disciplinary procedures.

Would players carry on doing it if on the spot tests at training were leading to big fines?

because on the whole, clubs dont want to lose star players.

double standards all round - they will hang a young lad out to dry, but as soon as one of the big boys does something wrong its brushed under the carpet.

Hock is obviously a special needs case for getting caught.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:38 pm  

saints35 bulls0 wrote:

because on the whole, clubs dont want to lose star players.

double standards all round - they will hang a young lad out to dry, but as soon as one of the big boys does something wrong its brushed under the carpet.

Hock is obviously a special needs case for getting caught.

The knowledge within a squad that you can behave however you see fit is far more damaging to a club than losing a star player.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:39 pm  

Bilko wrote:

Just flicking through the Radio Times and I notice the first part of a BBC Radio 5 Live summer series called "The state of...." starts with Rugby League.....................

Always wondered who read that, my gran used to buy the double edition at christmas every year

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:39 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

I always wonder why, when a club hears strong rumours about a player having a drug problem, they don't carry out their own testing and disciplinary procedures.

Would players carry on doing it if on the spot tests at training were leading to big fines?

Don't say that please. Pemps

It's a joke this and i think for this very reason people should post on here if they see a player off there heads i know people disagree with it but what would you sooner happen the club deal with it or the rfl?

So where do we stand with the cap now will hock come off it?

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:39 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Why have you got it all wrong here.

You say I say drugs is part of everyday life is rubbish, then you go on to say its true.

Don't localise it to yourself. Somewhere in the UK a deal will be being done as we speak, someone taking drugs as we speak, its part of everyday life. Maybe not for you, but defo for the UK, and for Wigan.

You don't take drugs before work? Did I every suggest Hock took anything before a game? NO, NEVER.

Just because you don't take drugs during the day now means others don't?

Oh come on, surely you're not so naive.

Say NO to drugs kids.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:40 pm  

Chuffin numpty!

Zero tolerance for me, precedent set with Dave Allen, get him sacked and move on.

Culture this, culture that, absolute bunkum.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:40 pm  

king warrior wrote:

will hock come off it?

Hopefully for the sake of his career.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:41 pm  

My first thoughts on this were that we should wash our hands of him completely due to him being such a pillock.

However after thinking things through my thoughts are that we should do whatever the RFL hand down which I assume will be a two year ban. For those two years he will be sacked by the club.

Then after the two years peroid if he has shown that he regrets what he has done and if he can prove (by random testing) that he has stayed clean then he can come back on our terms in terms of wages.

As much as people may seem to want him lynched at the moment and I can understand that, I do feel that unless it is something like murder then people deserve a sceond chance. However it would be his 2nd and last chance and after that if he could not learn from this then it would be time to give him up completely.

In the meantime I think it is time to get Lee Mossop back.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:41 pm  

Coventry Warrior! wrote:

Say NO to drugs kids.

It's like talking to kids at times.