Re: Team for Saints (CC) : Sun May 08, 2022 10:50 am  

Katrina wrote:

Why are you taking it so personally? He isn't the perfect/final product but so what? He's a weapon for us and it works. I don't know people get SO uppity whenever anyone points his weaknesses out. The poor passes haven't just been against Salford either though have they. But it's fine cos he's not playing in the halves. If he was, then it'd be an issue. Ultimately, I believe that's where he sees himself in the long run.

I didn't mention one on one. I mentioned on the line... He often doesn't 'sweep' and follow the play and ends up out of position. I also said he's young and still learning the role.

Had I said 'I don't like him, he's sh*t, he's average' blah blah then fair enough. I think you need to chill out a bit.

Why? It's the day after we just broke Saints hearts and got to the final of the Challenge Cup and you chose today to make criticism. WTF is wrong with you? Enjoy the moment.

Would you like to point to these other poor passes he's made? I'm intrigued.

So there's an area of his game he needs to improve. Name me a player who doesn't. He scores length of the field tries, is leading the MOS ratings, makes numerous try saving tackles and has literally won us games. But hey! He doesn't sweep as well as he might so let's focus on that.

There's only one of us needs to chill a bit and it isn't me. Have a beer. Enjoy the moment. As I say; you must be a blast at parties!

Re: Team for Saints (CC) : Sun May 08, 2022 10:53 am  

NSW wrote:

Just a point to highlight our style of play improvement -

2 of our tries were from running the ball on the last play.

How many times over the last few years would that have been a nothing bomb from Tommy/Hastings into the corner to “turn the ball over in the right position”

Chanced our arm and it paid off.

Harry Smith's decision on both I think too (certainly one of them was). Probably something he should get enormous credit for as you open yourself up to criticism when it doesn't come off.

Re: Team for Saints (CC) : Sun May 08, 2022 10:54 am  

WWste wrote:

I think the only reason fans tout him so much is because everyone else says he’s just fast. I do believe he has more to his game and hopefully he can show it more. Can’t remember who it was against but he picked out a pearl of a cut out pass for a try. Also the tackle on hurrell he had no right in making, if that was Escare for instance he’d of bumped him off for sure. Hopefully a bit more development and a little less reliance on his speed he hopefully can progress

Spot on.

For every so called bad pass, or missed tackle there are plenty of examples of him doing them not only right, but at an elite level too. Not every pass is gonna stick and not every tackle is going to be made, but when you can stop Hurrell with a great hit then you've got credit in the bank.

If I did want to be slightly negative about yesterday (only slightly), then it would be about French. He's elusive, but I don't think he's got elite speed (like Marshall, or French). He also doesn't bring it off our line well either. Reluctantly, I'd be happy to see him move on for next season. I'd love to see a point of difference in that back three. A big rangy winger like Richards was.

Re: Team for Saints (CC) : Sun May 08, 2022 11:07 am  

My favourite games this season have been ones where Field has been handled relatively well but we’ve still won. The most entertaining have been when he’s ripped it up but the most satisfying for me have been the games against Salford and yesterday, when the team have still found points from other areas and we have shown we don’t just rely on one man.

It was a different performance from Field yesterday but still a very good one I felt. It was one in the eye for those why say he can’t defend. It seems to be a unwritten rule that a great attacking fullback has to be wrote off as a defensive waste of time but everything I see from him suggests it’s also a strong area for him. He’s a brave lad that’s for sure.

Re: Team for Saints (CC) : Sun May 08, 2022 11:13 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

My favourite games this season have been ones where Field has been handled relatively well but we’ve still won. The most entertaining have been when he’s ripped it up but the most satisfying for me have been the games against Salford and yesterday, when the team have still found points from other areas and we have shown we don’t just rely on one man.

It was a different performance from Field yesterday but still a very good one I felt. It was one in the eye for those why say he can’t defend. It seems to be a unwritten rule that a great attacking fullback has to be wrote off as a defensive waste of time but everything I see from him suggests it’s also a strong area for him. He’s a brave lad that’s for sure.

Spot on NK. It's exciting to see Field ripping teams apart but I absolutely love it when win win when he's kept quiet! We're a one man team according to many Saints fans. They've been fretting all week about Field stealing a close game in the last minutes only for Marshy to do it instead. Priceless!

Re: Team for Saints (CC) : Sun May 08, 2022 11:13 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

My favourite games this season have been ones where Field has been handled relatively well but we’ve still won. The most entertaining have been when he’s ripped it up but the most satisfying for me have been the games against Salford and yesterday, when the team have still found points from other areas and we have shown we don’t just rely on one man.

It was a different performance from Field yesterday but still a very good one I felt. It was one in the eye for those why say he can’t defend. It seems to be a unwritten rule that a great attacking fullback has to be wrote off as a defensive waste of time but everything I see from him suggests it’s also a strong area for him. He’s a brave lad that’s for sure.

Genuinely, I don't know where the myth that he can't defend has come from? Like you mentioned, it's probably down to non Wigan fans assuming it to be the case, simply because of his size and speed. They haven't watched the majority of his games and trolls like LeBron, roll the old tropes out.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with Field as the last line of defence.

Re: Team for Saints (CC) : Sun May 08, 2022 11:23 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Genuinely, I don't know where the myth that he can't defend has come from? Like you mentioned, it's probably down to non Wigan fans assuming it to be the case, simply because of his size and speed. They haven't watched the majority of his games and trolls like LeBron, roll the old tropes out.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with Field as the last line of defence.

I'd go even further SP. I feel safer with Field having to make a try saving tackle than any fullback we've had for years.

Re: Team for Saints (CC) : Sun May 08, 2022 11:38 am  

jonh wrote:

Harry Smith proving me wrong yet again, fantastic to see.

Liam Marshall knocking on lost us the game, so very happy to see him get over for the winner.

We tried our best to implode in the second half but found a way.

Can’t wait for the away day in London. It’s been too long!

Marshy needs to have better control of the ball going into the tackle, especially when he is coming out from our try line - a two handed grip would be beneficial. His tries were spectacular though and overall he had a good game.

Re: Team for Saints (CC) : Sun May 08, 2022 11:40 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

Spot on NK. It's exciting to see Field ripping teams apart but I absolutely love it when win win when he's kept quiet! We're a one man team according to many Saints fans. They've been fretting all week about Field stealing a close game in the last minutes only for Marshy to do it instead. Priceless!

Field nearly did late in the game

Re: Team for Saints (CC) : Sun May 08, 2022 11:43 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

Why? It's the day after we just broke Saints hearts and got to the final of the Challenge Cup and you chose today to make criticism. WTF is wrong with you? Enjoy the moment.

Would you like to point to these other poor passes he's made? I'm intrigued.

So there's an area of his game he needs to improve. Name me a player who doesn't. He scores length of the field tries, is leading the MOS ratings, makes numerous try saving tackles and has literally won us games. But hey! He doesn't sweep as well as he might so let's focus on that.

There's only one of us needs to chill a bit and it isn't me. Have a beer. Enjoy the moment. As I say; you must be a blast at parties!

No I didn't. I was responding to posts already made about him. I didn't come on here thinking 'I'm going to criticise Field'. I didn't think he had a bad game, just pointing out that up against teams that defend well, then the threat he poses is nullified. Is he a perfect player? No. Does he have weaknesses? Yes. Do I enjoy seeing him play? Of course I do. Would I want him playing against us? Would I f**k! However, whether you like to admit it or not, his biggest asset IS his speed. That doesn't mean he's a bad player. Some Wigan fans get their knickers in a right old twist when opposition fans point it out, including you by the looks of it, and I don't understand why.