Re: BILKO : Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:58 am  

Finishing fifth, in this present system, is better than finshing first.
Play-0ffs:
week one: Fifth plays home against 8th who are poor because they finished in the bottom half of the table.
First plays home against 4th who are obviously one of the best teams in superleague.

week two: It is expected that fifth will now play at 4th team which is probably tired or demoralised after playing top team away. After week one this is a steady build up for fifth.
First is expected to get a week off, which will rest any niggles but not serious knocks. Not playing means that their momentum is stopped unlike the fifth team.

week three: Fifth will now go to 1st. Another step up but let's not forget momentum is gathering. In a semi final home advantage doesn't matter. 1st team have lost their momentum and therefore either can win.

Let's hope Wigan finsih 5th next season and rest players during the season so they will be fresh for Wembley and the play-offs.

Re: BILKO : Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:22 pm  

From a very early age i had it drilled into me that coming 1st meant you were a winner ,coming second was for losers.So what about fifth?

Re: BILKO : Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:36 pm  

As Wigan fans the system seems unfairly weighted against us as we finished top and got (relatively speaking) bugger all for it. However, we seem to be the only ones in this position. Wire fans will no doubt say the system works as they got to the GF. Similarly, the Leeds fans will say it works as they've won it twice now ffrom 5th. The teams lower down will say it works as it gives them something to aim for, as without P&R, there's nothing else for the teams around 6th-12th to play for post-July.

Unfortunately, as we all know, the tail wags the dog in British RL and it looks like we'll be stuck with this joke of a system for some time yet.

No wonder we can't attract new fans. When I try to explain the playoffs to my non-rugby mates, I just the same perplexed look and mutterings of "That's f-ing stupid"

Re: BILKO : Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:57 am  

League winners should go straight to the final then 2nd-5th play off for the other spot.

Re: BILKO : Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:12 pm  

No one would complain if the team finishing top where the champions. We wouldn't have page after page on these forums saying does the system need changing?

just like they don't on football forums.

Then have a top 8 Prem Trophy playoff. Its not rocket science. Oh and non-rl fans might just jump on the bandwagon.

Ok we lose a 70k GF attendance but what people save on money not going to that may mean they go to internationals instead. GB v Australia at Old Trafford with 70K on instead is probably better. We could market that all season instead of marketing the GF.

Re: BILKO : Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:15 pm  

Dougy wrote:

No one would complain if the team finishing top where the champions. We wouldn't have page after page on these forums saying does the system need changing?

just like they don't on football forums.

Then have a top 8 Prem Trophy playoff. Its not rocket science. Oh and non-rl fans might just jump on the bandwagon.

Ok we lose a 70k GF attendance but what people save on money not going to that may mean they go to internationals instead. GB v Australia at Old Trafford with 70K on instead is probably better. We could market that all season instead of marketing the GF.

To be fair thats what the playoffs are basically meant to be but Sky would just change it to how it is now so it wouldnt work sadly.

Its basically the same as it is now except we would be trying to rebrand and it would just end up like it is now.

Re: BILKO : Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:15 pm  

Salty wrote:

Finishing fifth, in this present system, is better than finshing first.
Play-0ffs:
week one: Fifth plays home against 8th who are poor because they finished in the bottom half of the table.
First plays home against 4th who are obviously one of the best teams in superleague.

week two: It is expected that fifth will now play at 4th team which is probably tired or demoralised after playing top team away. After week one this is a steady build up for fifth.
First is expected to get a week off, which will rest any niggles but not serious knocks. Not playing means that their momentum is stopped unlike the fifth team.

week three: Fifth will now go to 1st. Another step up but let's not forget momentum is gathering. In a semi final home advantage doesn't matter. 1st team have lost their momentum and therefore either can win.

Let's hope Wigan finsih 5th next season and rest players during the season so they will be fresh for Wembley and the play-offs.

someone in the PoundBakery today was saying to me that finishing 8th in a top 8 system gives you a better chance of winning the GF then finishing 5th in a top 5 playoff. Think about it. It actually does!!!!

Re: BILKO : Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:41 pm  

Dougy wrote:

Then have a top 8 Prem Trophy playoff. Its not rocket science. Oh and non-rl fans might just jump on the bandwagon.

If the only reason non-rl fans don't follow the greatest game on earth is because we have a complicated but fantastic end of season play-off then there is no hope. We used to have a top 8 Premiership, it wasn't a patch on the GF.

Re: BILKO : Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:25 pm  

Are we basing our play offs on the ozzie game? The ozzie have a play off system because they dont have a wembley challenge cup final. We do. So why copy the ozzie system who are trying to make up for not having a wembley final?
The old top 8 premier was best, it was still drawing in large crowds at old trafford in 1997.
3 decent trophys in a season, SL Challenge cup, SL premier cup, sl championship
Winning all 3 would create a SL grand slam.
Funny how people still mention the SL double, not the treble, its obvious the league leaders trophy is nonsense.

Re: BILKO : Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:45 pm  

The best way to get it changed would be for us to win the GF from 5th. Would soon be changed