: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:25 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

We're not playing well and one of players has done something he shouldn't have apparently.
Joke is going a bit far mate.

Recruitment, coaching situation, cig drug and booze culture. IL's first fans forum he said its time to stop the embarressment associated with this club (regarding SC issues) and get the club name out the gutter in the world of rugby. Well IMO the club has never been lower than it is now.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:26 pm  

Connor The Warrior wrote:

The fact is that, at the min the club is a joke. Lenagan has a lot of answers to give out.

Lenagan can't control the actions of the players 24hours a day. This has been a problem for years now and well before Lenagan took over.

He needs to get a tough coach in to discipline these players but away from the field theres little he can do apart from let them all know he'll sack anybody who gets caught...............even if it's not through the official channels.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:26 pm  

Bill_Barlow wrote:

Recruitment, coaching situation, cig drug and booze culture. IL's first fans forum he said its time to stop the embarressment associated with this club (regarding SC issues) and get the club name out the gutter in the world of rugby. Well IMO the club has never been lower than it is now.

I completely support the above statement.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:27 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Not if you wanna make sure they pass its not.

I see what your saying if potentially a club has X amount of 'star' players they fear will be caught, they need them to come through negative

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:27 pm  

Connor The Warrior wrote:

The fact is that, at the min the club is a joke. Lenagan has a lot of answers to give out.

Your being harsh. Wigan RL could do nothing about a player taking a recreational drug in his own time. The only thing they can do is sack him which they probably will do if his B sample comes back positive.

Read some of this thread and it really seems some people are mixing up recreational drugs with performance enhancers. As a professional sportsman he should know better but alot of people take coke and he's clearly not done this to gain a sporting advantage. He'll no doubt pay a heavy price for his mistake now.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:27 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Obviously it's Hocks own moronic mind thats caught him out but either way he deserves what he gets.

The Rugby League lads are lucky they aren't as closely watched as Athletes because if they were they'd be screwed.

This isn't just a rugby league problem though is it, it's a problem in general and what makes me laugh is how footballers don't seem to get caught up in it!!! All that money and going out 7 nights a week and not 1 high profile footballer gets caught out................brown envelopes spring to mind.

Yep.

Drugs are part of society in 2009. It's just the way it is. I hate drugs as I've seen what they've done to people, but if we like it or not they are part of today.

Random drug tests etc are really good ideas, but they don't the reality of the situation. If clubs in most sports were honest the exposure to the press could literally end several clubs.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:28 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

Your being harsh. Wigan RL could do nothing about a player taking a recreational drug in his own time. The only thing they can do is sack him which they probably will do if his B sample comes back positive.

Read some of this thread and it really seems some people are mixing up recreational drugs with performance enhancers. As a professional sportsman he should know better but alot of people take coke and he's clearly not done this to gain a sporting advantage. He'll no doubt pay a heavy price for his mistake now.

A recreational drug culture at any club is a hell of a lot more damaging than one or two taking performance enhancers.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:29 pm  

Time to recall Mossop back from his loan spell and for him to step up.

Dont mean to be all doom and gloom, but the little bit of a chance of us finishing (excuse the pun) on a high this season, has now gone and we will be lucky to make the playoffs. Hock was a big game player.

Were one game away from Wembley though, just need to concentrate on this one game.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:29 pm  

Earthworm Jim wrote:

I see what your saying if potentially a club has X amount of 'star' players they fear will be caught, they need them to come through negative

All eventually comes down to ££££

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:30 pm  

From my experiences just like society it is rife within the sport, the funny thing is i have seen lads sail through the tests after only a day to get it out of the system.

Hock is sadly a drop in the ocean and hopefully will provide a wake up call to others in the game who are using the same substances.

Lets face it though is anyone remotley surprised it turns out Hock to be caught?

The sad thing is the club will probably slam him in public but stand by him in the background so that they do not lose out on his services in 2 years time.