Re: BILKO : Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:22 pm  

jehull wrote:

I am prepared to watch my team win lose or draw whether its a friendly or a league game. I love my RL and will always support my team. Top 8 is a farce but I wouldn't be complaining if I was Leeds and neither would you. How would you feel if you lost key players during the season, dropped points and then key players came back to win the GF? Would you turn round and say "FFS we don't deserve it because we finished outside the top 4?" Yeah right! Give your head a bang and stop being a fake plastic fan. Support your team, the sport and stop being a muppet!

I'm prepared to watch my team win, lose or draw. I'm not prepared to pay out to watch 2 teams play without that 'competitive edge' because victory doesn't matter.

and yes, i would complain about the system if Wigan won it from 5th. No team deserves to be champions if they do not finish top, or at a push 2nd. As long as the fixtures are even etc etc

You're the muppet for purposely coming onto another forum and looking for an argument. We are all trying to have a good discussion about RL.

Re: BILKO : Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:37 pm  

The only good thing about the playoffs is the GF itself. In that it does get coverage that we don't normally get, and its a 70k crowd.

The intensity in week 3 of the playoffs is good too but we would get that during the regular season when Wigan/Wire/Saints/Leeds played each other if we DIDN'T have the playoffs because finshing higher up the league would MATTER.

I've proposed elsewhere that we keep the GF, but scrapped the rest of the playoffs. The top 2 play each other in the GF every season. Then...

1)every game would matter, intensity throughout the season would increase.
2)You'd have to be super consistent to qualify, an inconsistent team could never be champions.
3) you'd have to be top 2 to be champions, no team lower than 2nd would ever be champions.
4) we keep GF, a 70k crowd and a great game and great occasion
5) no weeks 1,2,3 in the playoffs in front of half empty stadiums and total lack of atmosphere.
6) people would be encouraged to buy season tickets as you wouldn't feel like you was watching friendlies all season with nothing at stake.

Then week after GF, top 8 Prem trophy would start, 1v8, 2v7 etc with straight knockout and final at Elland Rd.

What Leeds have done this past 2 years is no doubt deserving of a trophy, but IMO opinion, not of the Championship because of thier inconsistency.


thoughts?

Re: BILKO : Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:21 am  

Nah, that's just silly and we all know that would never happen Dougy, if Wigan finished 5th and won it i wouldn't give a monkeys toss whether it devalued the season or not. But the fact someone else done it kind of gives us a platform to shout that it is a crap setup which in all honesty it really is!!
This might seem unusual, actually really weird.... but how about whoever wins the league becomes champions..? Then i may have an appetite for renewing my season ticket.

We already have the big occasion match of the season in the challenge cup final. RL is a great sport but its run by a group of dummies having a laugh and it dosent look like it's gonna change too soon

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Re: BILKO : Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:26 am  

I like the playoffs idea. In fact I love it but if it continues in it's current format Wigan have to be smarter about it.

I do think there should be more reward and incentive to finishing top though. Warrington new that finishing second gave them no real disadvantage from finishing top so they cruised through the season.

I've said it before, probably on this thread, but I'd like to see a top 5 playoff with the league winners going straight to Old Trafford and 2nd to 5th knocking seven bells out of each other to be the other finalist. It gives a real incentive to finish top and stacks the deck in the league winners favour, as it should.

Re: BILKO : Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:31 am  

The season we nearly went down we was still in the top 6 format and finished 8th. If we had the top 8 system then, we'd have been one of the favourites on our form but did not deserve any sort of chance to be crowned champions.

Re: BILKO : Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:06 am  

Another point that's been missed. We finished top while having to play our extra game (magic weekend) against saints. Wire only had to play Widnes and Leeds Bradford. This means that even with an unfair advantage they only finished 5th and Wire 2nd. The league in general is a joke in many ways.

Re: BILKO : Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:34 am  

hula89 wrote:

Another point that's been missed. We finished top while having to play our extra game (magic weekend) against saints. Wire only had to play Widnes and Leeds Bradford. This means that even with an unfair advantage they only finished 5th and Wire 2nd. The league in general is a joke in many ways.

I'm a Wire fan but I agree that the Magic Weekend needing to contrive derbies does lead to this unfair outcome. And I'm guessing you guys and Saints wouldn't swap the Good Friday game for anything but it does mean that you also have a very hard game automatically booked in over the Easter weekend as one of your two matches.

Re: BILKO : Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:48 am  

MarginMeter wrote:

I'm a Wire fan but I agree that the Magic Weekend needing to contrive derbies does lead to this unfair outcome. And I'm guessing you guys and Saints wouldn't swap the Good Friday game for anything but it does mean that you also have a very hard game automatically booked in over the Easter weekend as one of your two matches.

Unfortunately, we currently have the only competitive derby in sl but i wouldnt want to see the good Friday game swapped for anything

Re: BILKO : Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:11 am  

the humberside derby is still a decent derby.

however the point about MM is still valid. it makes a mockery of the league and would become even more of an issue is a top 8 was reduced to a top 5 end of season.

However, it is no way near as bad as having a smaller league and playing half the teams 3 times a season !

Re: BILKO : Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:46 am  

EastStandFaithful wrote:

I do not understand the strategy and direction of the RFL at a time when the whole world is facing austere financial measures.

Serious question, do you actually know what the RFL's strategy is? You must have some knowledge of it as you claim to not understand it. What are they doing/not doing that they shouldn't/should?