: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:31 am  

jonh wrote:

I stopped reading after the bold finished. it displays a total ignorace, and missing of the point there is no use continuing with the coversation.

Fine. The last time I saw Hanley he was falling on his harris on an ice rink. If you want him to lead Wigan to your next period of success, then fine. I'm not bothered either way. You keep on looking to your past while Hudds and Saints snap up talent like Brown and Potter.

: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:10 am  

Sorry but I don't think people are facing up to the deep-seated nature of the problems at Wigan. People tend to fixate on the coach OR the signing of the wrong players/failure to sign the right players for the right position OR the apparent lack of fitness of a number of our players OR the poor tactics OR Lockers isn't a good captain etc etc.

The facts are that the whole club has lost its way. Nothing has improved since Mo left. If anything the culture of accepting second best has become more entrenched, with the new phenomenon of "not football related issues" causing problems behind the scenes. All the signs are that the club needs a clear out from top to bottom - playing, coaching and backroom staff (and judging from another thread on this board the marketing staff who allow merchandise to be issued with basic spelling errors!).

Ultimately for me the buck stops with the man at the top, IL.

He must be very concerned at the malaise at the club but there is very little evidence he is prepared to or able to do anything about it.

I have to say that I am very worried for the future of the club.

: Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:03 am  

For me Brian Noble is not the one at fault! Granted he has us playing rugby that is crap but he is not the one who comes up with all the errors. I was a massive Noble critic up until tonight after speaking to a current player. 90% of them need firing off, people talk about Warringtons problems, they have seen frig all.........

: Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:26 am  

XBrettKennyX wrote:

Shush.

U will be nowhere at the end of the season, we will be in the playoffs. You know that, I know that.

Stop trying to punch above your weight. It doesn't work.

if your going to make the play offs they'd better get their act together as this must be their worse start to SL,

Stop trying to punch above your weight you come on trying to be quite knowledgeable about game but give no backbone to the comments you make

next up
Quins A
Bradford H
Leeds A
not looking good for the foreseeable games

: Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:29 am  

snowie wrote:

:lol: if your going to make the play offs they'd better get their act together as this must be their worse start to SL,

Stop trying to punch above your weight you come on trying to be quite knowledgeable about game but give no backbone to the comments you make

next up
Quins A
Bradford H
Leeds A
not looking good for the foreseeable games

They'll be fine snowie it's top 8 this year so they can afford to lose more than they win and still qualify for the play-offs!!
Especially when nobby gets all his"horses healthy"and puts"humpty back together again" :wink:

: Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:34 am  

ChrisPie2 wrote:

Ideal Coach in world - Wayne Bennett

Ideal Coach currently in UK - Shaun Mcrae

Likely coach that Lenagan will sign on the cheap - Ellery Hanley

I don't think that Ellery ever did anything on the cheap, he will costalot

: Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:56 am  

Wigan need a young up and coming coach, with an experienced man in the background helping him.

I'd go for Adrian Lam and David Waite

: Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:58 am  

Donna wrote:

Rads was IL's guest tonight (or one of em...) hope he's being offered a role in the coaching staff.

maybe he already has.........

: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:50 am  

Deano G wrote:

Sorry but I don't think people are facing up to the deep-seated nature of the problems at Wigan. People tend to fixate on the coach OR the signing of the wrong players/failure to sign the right players for the right position OR the apparent lack of fitness of a number of our players OR the poor tactics OR Lockers isn't a good captain etc etc.

The facts are that the whole club has lost its way. Nothing has improved since Mo left. If anything the culture of accepting second best has become more entrenched, with the new phenomenon of "not football related issues" causing problems behind the scenes. All the signs are that the club needs a clear out from top to bottom - playing, coaching and backroom staff (and judging from another thread on this board the marketing staff who allow merchandise to be issued with basic spelling errors!).

Ultimately for me the buck stops with the man at the top, IL.

He must be very concerned at the malaise at the club but there is very little evidence he is prepared to or able to do anything about it.

I have to say that I am very worried for the future of the club.

I am going to enjoy digging this thread out in October


We do have a problem at Wigan, but I don't think it lies with the coaching staff.

: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:53 am  

p.s. wrote:

I don't think that Ellery ever did anything on the cheap, he will costalot

I'd like to know where Doncaster got their mega bucks for his services last year then.