Re: HKR (CC) : Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:32 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

I’m convinced I’ll never see a dumber performance than Wakey away, so as I say, that’s not much of a defence for saying today wasn’t as dumb. I can just cut the whole team plenty of slack, that I couldn’t do 2 weeks ago. A man down, in horror conditions and with some appalling reffing decisions (that’s one constant mind) and it would’ve been easy to fall away but the effort was fantastic. I don’t disagree that sadly the smarts just weren’t there but there was absolutely no excuse for that at Wakey, whereas today I can understand it with the fatigue factor. Not giving Harvie Hill any minutes is a head scratcher. If he had that little trust in him, just carry Cust or Hampshire on the bench and cover injuries.

100% - criminal not to use Hill who has been playing well and we were 2 interchanges down AND a man down - please can someone explain? Defo throw Hampo in the mix if you don't trust the kid to play....

Re: HKR (CC) : Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:35 am  

Keiththered wrote:

Reading all the posts gives me almost as much pleasure as the result did yesterday. Almost.

I’m sure Cooper and Havard would have improved your team but so would the missing five first choice KR players. Half of our spine was missing as well as two of our main forwards and an international wing.

Strange that most bitching at refs invariably comes from the fans of losing teams. Yes, you had some decisions go against you but at crucial points in the game so did we.

Name those decisions....you were the best team and have outplayed us on 3 occasions this season - no need to gild the lily

Re: HKR (CC) : Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:49 am  

jaws1 wrote:

I agree with you we were scoring tries for fun when French was on the wing Cust not in favour Rocky not in favour Miski to the forwards for me he takes the ball up well.At least try Rocky for one match at stand off to see how it goes we are clueless in attack since Briers left why pick Isa been out for weeks and straight into the team only played miniscule minutes i honestly think the honeymoon is over with Peet we have no attack plan whatsoever back to Wanes type of rugby 5 drives and a kick offloads seemed to have dried up Mago and KPP were offloading at will now stopped. Miski might face a ban this week so things might revert to what it used to be.
I think Farrell is finished not contributing anything to the team why have a sub on the bench and not used especially when down to 12 men why did Isa get picked ??

On the money for several points - risk to start Willie, not fit, contributed nothing and broke down - leaving us short, Shorrocks then has to fill in and gets sent off - we are now two interchange players down, so we do not use a form player in Hill so we are 3 interchanges down - this is criminal. But the coaches have form with this, WTF is going on with picking young lads on the bench and giving them 0-5 minutes per game? Peet bemoans losing Nicholson and McDonnell - can we really blame them for leaving? At this rate we will lose Nsemba, Hill and Forber to name but 3. JFB gone mad.

Re: HKR (CC) : Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:44 am  

Not sure where to post this so feel free to move it

Someone has left a kids wigan hoody 9/10 years a couple of seats down from us at the match on Sunday, we were in the seats in row M around seats 26

I think it was left at seat 22

I can bring it to the game this Saturday if that’s any good to whoever it belongs to?

Re: HKR (CC) : Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:53 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

lYes Smith’s decision to kick on the 3rd on golden point time was a particularly bad error but the lad is playing on his own in the halves and he’s not much more than a bairn. We’re haven’t had a decent 6 for years.

Smith’s played 110 games btw. Please stop excusing him.

At the same stage George Williams had won 2 GFs playing alongside Matty Smith, and also 10 internationals (Smith just 1).

Smirh has previously partnered Hastings, Leuluai and Cust. Hardly all crap halfbacks.

Re: HKR (CC) : Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:15 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

Smith’s played 110 games btw. Please stop excusing him.

At the same stage George Williams had won 2 GFs playing alongside Matty Smith, and also 10 internationals (Smith just 1).

Smirh has previously partnered Hastings, Leuluai and Cust. Hardly all crap halfbacks.

When I saw Smith lining up the kick on the 3rd, you assumed he was either aiming for a 40/20 or he saw clear space to aim at for territory. Either one of those would have been fine but unfortunately it sailed right into the arms of the fullback. I can kind of admire him taking the initiative but if you take a risk like that you have to get it right (particularly as KPP had got us in a good position with an offload the tackle before).

Re: HKR (CC) : Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:25 am  

MadDogg wrote:

When I saw Smith lining up the kick on the 3rd, you assumed he was either aiming for a 40/20 or he saw clear space to aim at for territory. Either one of those would have been fine but unfortunately it sailed right into the arms of the fullback. I can kind of admire him taking the initiative but if you take a risk like that you have to get it right (particularly as KPP had got us in a good position with an offload the tackle before).

I thought Smith was great on Saturday.

He’s under too much pressure and an easy target because he is our only go to play maker and kicker but he as usual ran the show.

He is developing a habit of becoming a nuisance in defence and managing to slow down the play the ball very nicely with a bit of niggle too.

He though got that play very wrong and that is what he will be remembered for in that game. It was a poor decision which in the crucial throws probably lost us the match.

All the best players have these incidents happen as they develop, hopefully he learns from it and we get a proper 6 in the team going forward to support him.

Re: HKR (CC) : Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:35 am  

jonh wrote:

I thought Smith was great on Saturday.

He’s under too much pressure and an easy target because he is our only go to play maker and kicker but he as usual ran the show.

He is developing a habit of becoming a nuisance in defence and managing to slow down the play the ball very nicely with a bit of niggle too.

He though got that play very wrong and that is what he will be remembered for in that game. It was a poor decision which in the crucial throws probably lost us the match.

All the best players have these incidents happen as they develop, hopefully he learns from it and we get a proper 6 in the team going forward to support him.

Agree.

A couple of other players came up with dumb plays in the 2nd half but they won't be scapegoated for it like Smith is.

Re: HKR (CC) : Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:46 am  

jonh wrote:

I thought Smith was great on Saturday.

He’s under too much pressure and an easy target because he is our only go to play maker and kicker but he as usual ran the show.

He is developing a habit of becoming a nuisance in defence and managing to slow down the play the ball very nicely with a bit of niggle too.

He though got that play very wrong and that is what he will be remembered for in that game. It was a poor decision which in the crucial throws probably lost us the match.

All the best players have these incidents happen as they develop, hopefully he learns from it and we get a proper 6 in the team going forward to support him.

For me Smith is the most important player in the team. If he was unavailable we would be totally and utterly rudderless.

Re: HKR (CC) : Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:39 am  

jonh wrote:

I thought Smith was great on Saturday.

He’s under too much pressure and an easy target because he is our only go to play maker and kicker but he as usual ran the show.

He is developing a habit of becoming a nuisance in defence and managing to slow down the play the ball very nicely with a bit of niggle too.

He though got that play very wrong and that is what he will be remembered for in that game. It was a poor decision which in the crucial throws probably lost us the match.

All the best players have these incidents happen as they develop, hopefully he learns from it and we get a proper 6 in the team going forward to support him.

Generally his kicking game and defence were good and I agree that there's too much pressure on his shoulders.